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Tell me that this is what I think it is, and if it is what I think it is,
then can someone tell me how old it is ? If it's not what I think it is ,
then I must be wrong, but I'm sure it is what I think it is and so I must
be right. But correct me if I'm wrong.  ;D ;D I went out for an hour tonight and found it.
It's complete and still has it's clanger.
The second object is made of lead, it has a small hole in the end of it. I don't know
what it is , but if somebody does know what it is, then could you tell me what it is ?
if I guess what it is then I might be wrong, on the other hand I might guess right and
then I wouldn't have to ask you what it is as I'd already know. But I don't and
therefore I'm asking , what is it ? I'd rather have the right answer than the wrong answer.
but If you don't know, then you're in the same boat as me. although I don't own a boat,
maybe you do, and if you don't own a boat the I can't be in it , unless you borrowed a boat.
I'd rather you didn't as I get sea sick. ;D

crotal bell?

thats what I thought  ;D ;D

Have a read of this to help you date your bell;

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/crotal-bells.html (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/crotal-bells.html)
 ;)

definitely a crotal bell. They lovely things to find .... just ask Chef!  ;D ;D ;D

I think it's a small coin along side a Crotal bell

 ;D ;D  thanks people. I just can't find a picture of a crotal bell with the same
suspension loop to date it.

I have never seen one with that sort of suspension loop. Very unusual. When I was involved with Yeovil MDC I booked a guy to give a talk on crotal bells. He is one of the foremost experts on the subject and is always eager to record new makers marks or variations etc. If you were interested I can ask permission to give you his e-mail address. I am sure he would be interested to see it and give you information on it.

Yes that would be great, although theres no makers mark or number on it, still
even if it's 20th century it would be nice to know

If it were unusual he would still be interested despite there being no makers initials. I will send him an e-mail and get back to you when he replies to me.

E-mail now sent to him. His name is Graham Palmer by the way.

the lead object is the handle  off a toy gun ,

thanks for the help Cardiffian .

Your welcome Dryland

Silky it certainly looks like a handle off something, although its only
2 inches long and the hole on the front is only about the width of a
cocktail stick. Before anybody gets the boot in I am talking about the lead thingy ;D ;D

Good shout Silky, yep its the handle from a toy gun circa 1910. The link below shows the type though that one has a different handle, I've got a few somewhere that have the same as yours, I'll see if I can dig them out.

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=13396&cat=130 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=13396&cat=130)

Nice piece of ID'ing Silky, well done

Thanks again Silky and Geoff, how on earth did you I D that.
Now then how about a date for the crotal bell ?

Most crotal bells are only from the late Georgian early Victorian period and I'm afraid yours looks quite a lot newer than those, the hanger looks to be made to allow a strap to pass though and would imagine it was only one of many on a horses harness. :-\

Said the bitter old man  :D :D :D

I've got 3 :D

Thanks Geoff, Hitler only had one ;D ;D

Hi Dryland. PM sent to you.

Thanks Alan, returned

 Cheff help I'm a little confused, the metal thingy in the above photo ,which I found in June
you and Silky I D it as a toy gun handle. I don't know if you've got September 2013 issue
of Treasure Hunting yet. On page 9 Upper right corner , there,s a picture of an identical one
sent in by a gentleman from South Wales who found one close by an iron age enclosure,.
He sent the photo in for them to compare against a  "Late iron age " or middle "Bronze age"
object. I personaly can't see much of a resemblance, and I suppose this object could have
been dropped by an Iron Age settlement at any time. Any thoughts? or has anyone else any
 thoughts on this ?

I think they may be talking about this type of object:

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showcat.php?cat=6&stype=1&si=moustache&perpage=12&sort=1&stype=&limit=&cat=6&ppuser= (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showcat.php?cat=6&stype=1&si=moustache&perpage=12&sort=1&stype=&limit=&cat=6&ppuser=)

Your's is lead, believe us it's a gun handle

I DO , I DO , I DO believe you honest  ;D, what I meant was why did T H magazine
print it, even a  novice like myself could see that they don't look alike. And thanks
for pic Doc

Oh I see sorry. I don't buy those advertising catalogues so I didn't see it ;D