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Title: James 11
Post by: sodbuster on May 16, 2009, 12:10:17 PM
Here's a copper alloy of James 11 that has survived ,( same size as an old penny)


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: the sutt on May 16, 2009, 12:26:54 PM
very nice coin whats the on it


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: the sutt on May 16, 2009, 12:30:05 PM
sorry alan that should have read whats the date on it ops :-\


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: sodbuster on May 16, 2009, 12:40:35 PM
unfortunately the reverse isn't so good but the date can be made out ....1689


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: Stig(The) on May 16, 2009, 12:56:15 PM
Nice coin Alan,"1689" that`s nearly as old as Kane !  ;D


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: mole on May 16, 2009, 12:59:21 PM
Sodbuster nice find it,s in better condition than a lot of georgian I,ve found :) mole


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: DIGGA on May 16, 2009, 01:04:01 PM
NICE FIND THO   WELL DONE  ;D ;D


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: hedgehog on May 16, 2009, 01:47:57 PM
Interesting date that, think he was hiding over in Ireland at that point , lot of history behind that coin , what do you say Peter? Was it gun money at that date?


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: simon c on May 16, 2009, 02:50:53 PM
Very nice find Alan,yes Steve is correct it is James 11 Gunmoney,emergency coinage,if you turn your reverse image around so the date is at the top then you can just make out two XX's(3rd X is worn away) which will be the denomination,This will make it a Half Crown.


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on May 16, 2009, 02:54:00 PM
Well done , rare to get coppers in any condition approaching that.


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: simon c on May 16, 2009, 03:14:00 PM
Bit of info on gun money
James 11 being catholic was very unpopular in Britain,In 1688 the British people offered the throne to james son-in-law William of Orange and his wife Mary to reign as joint sovereigns,James fled to France to raise an army,and in 1689 landed in Ireland to try and capture it and the invade mainland Britain.
All the gold and Silver James had was used to buy arms,so an emergency coinage was created,using metal from old cannons,bells,and other scrap,this became known as GUN MONEY,the idea being that it would be repayed in silver or gold at a later date when James regained the Crown,James was defeated by William at the Battle of the Boyne and the coinage was then more or less made worthless.
Hope this is of interest.


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: sodbuster on May 16, 2009, 03:24:56 PM
            Another cracking bit of information , thanks simon c . I thought it was a penny. Amazing the information the forum is capable of , so glad I joined .
             


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: Gadget(Ian) on May 16, 2009, 03:28:32 PM
nice find alan its nice to identify those groty coppers.


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: PHIL YNYSBOETH on May 16, 2009, 07:39:04 PM
Great find Alan !

well winkled ;0)


Title: Re: James 11
Post by: ROMAN STEVE on May 18, 2009, 09:56:34 PM
thats excellent condition for a
copper alloy all the ones i found you cant make out whos on them


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