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Title: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: alun on January 29, 2013, 05:48:34 PM
Hi all. I have a promising area which is pasture land, which has never been ploughed. The question is what differences can i expect to find through signal strength and tone?
I have done beach work and ploughed areas, which i have found a happy medium with my Whites 300DFX. Pasture is leading me astray in ground balance and settings.
I have taken to keeping on all metals for now as i have began to tell pitch differences on the other areas mentioned, but the tones and readings all seem different on pasture. ??
Anyone with a whites who can help, or anyone who has similar problems?


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 29, 2013, 05:55:12 PM
Al you have a Exp II listed in your signature, if you have one then can I ask..Why aren't you using that on pasture or the beach for that matter?


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: alun on January 29, 2013, 06:22:28 PM
Got the ex 2 on loan from a good mate of mine, although i use it from time to time, i bought the whites as my main unit. (the ex2 was his brothers who is no longer with us) long story, and knowing my luck something will go wrong with it. ???
Had some good results with the whites so far, but i know there is a big difference on different pastures. Hoped someone has already hit this issue and can help me on my homework  ;D


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: dances with badgers on January 29, 2013, 06:43:55 PM
get the explorer out for know al ;)


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: nobby on January 29, 2013, 06:51:37 PM
ahhh dont listen to them alun ;D......roman rays doing alright......ask him he'll put you straight ;)


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: Mike on January 29, 2013, 06:54:45 PM
ahhh dont listen to them alun ;D......roman rays doing alright......ask him he'll put you straight ;)

as long as its not on a beach , he couldnt find his arse with both hands down there  :D :D but he does well on farmland  :)


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: alun on January 29, 2013, 07:09:55 PM
LOL good ones. Ok Ray is needed thanks all


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: Roman (Ray) on January 29, 2013, 07:30:31 PM
hi alan
i put a program on here the other day to help 2 of the members who also had the d.f.x..im trying to find the right topic it was in..such as..general discussions..metal detecting finds.ect-ect..i cant bloody find what topic it was in...so i could put it back on here for you mucker.save me writeing another one out.i could just copy and paste it back up for you..bare with me mate.
it should say help with the d.f.x..


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 29, 2013, 08:08:48 PM
Here you go Ray
http://www.detectingwales.com/index.php?topic=16834.0 (http://www.detectingwales.com/index.php?topic=16834.0)


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: Dryland on January 29, 2013, 08:39:11 PM
any idea if these settings would also work on my whites xlt spectrum ?


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: Roman (Ray) on January 29, 2013, 09:57:07 PM
Here you go Ray
[url]http://www.detectingwales.com/index.php?topic=16834.0[/url] ([url]http://www.detectingwales.com/index.php?topic=16834.0[/url])

wonderfull stuff geoff cheers matey...dryland i could.nt really say if it would be the same on the XLT mucker..no harm in trying them ..i here theres not much difference in both machines.give it a go mate.

ray !!!


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: Dryland on January 29, 2013, 10:46:54 PM
Will do, thanks Ray.


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: galoshers on January 30, 2013, 11:06:23 AM
if its never been ploughed the soil will be compacted ,ploughing makes a big difference .use a PI or all metal mode??


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: alun on January 30, 2013, 07:28:56 PM
Thanks Geoff, Ray your a gem. and Galoshers nice one, i am in all metal right now due to no ploughing, but would like a custom setting which has been tried and tested. Dont want to tweak and squeek the settings without knowing what the hells happening  ::)
Let you know how it works on the weekend. cheers all.


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: alun on January 30, 2013, 07:35:44 PM
Bloody hell Ray, just read the programme  :o So glad you put it in simple form  ;D Thanks bud


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: IFINDNOTHING on January 30, 2013, 08:04:51 PM
XLT are real good machines, I had one for over 10 years and it never let me down, I still have it as a spare.
There is one thing Alun has mentioned and that's the all metal mode, there is a little trick to use with this that no one uses that I know of, this will also work on dfx. I now use a v3i and there is a setting on it called stereo mixed mode which allows you to hear all metal in one ear and discriminate in the other. On the XLT/dfx you can copy one program to a new user number, then copy the same program next to it, adjust one for all metal with hot settings and the one next with only + values on discrim with stable settings, run in all metal till you find something and then use arrow key to switch program to see if you want to dig! Whites owners, try it and let me know what you think! :)
And back to the original question about pasture, I can't remember my program settings but I will dig the old machine out on the weekend and let you know, what I do remember is you can push the machine much harder on pasture than ploughed or especially beach.


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: alun on January 31, 2013, 08:11:15 PM
That would be great IFINDNOTHING, sounds just the sort of thing.


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: Dryland on January 31, 2013, 11:56:06 PM
Yes thanks, IFINDNOTHING. I need as much help as I can get  ;D


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: probono on February 01, 2013, 10:03:44 AM
if its never been ploughed the soil will be compacted ,ploughing makes a big difference .use a PI or all metal mode??

I've been trying that recenlty - the land I detect on is mostly pasture, and it's correct everything is compacted, but personally I prefer pasture to ploughed (unless it has been ploughed and it has had chance to settle well first).

I have found more nails with a PI machine than with either my Ex II or a T2, but then I also found some roman with the Minelab that I didn't find with the PI....maybe I'm just not used to the PI yet.


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: dances with badgers on February 01, 2013, 11:45:32 PM
p.i machines take a lot of getting used to ;)


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: alun on February 08, 2013, 09:31:14 PM
Think I upset Mr the vexatious blogger with incredibly itchy underpants,,, Well, i even replied in a well mannered and educated response to his displeasure. Strangely enough it never appeared, mysterious that.

Just to set the record straight anyways, the pasture in question will soon be developed into yet another wind farm, which incidently overlooks the house in which I was born and brought up in. It also holds great memories of when we used to round the sheep up on horseback during shearing time for local farmers, and there is also the fact that My fathers ashes have also been scattered over this pasture land, so you could actually say that this is truly the "land of my fathers".
This weekend will see our first full search of the area, which i am sure will prove that Prince Hywel surely loved this area, especially when he and his beloved horse were not slain in battle just to be bulldozed into oblivion.

Rest assured Mr the vexatious blogger with incredibly itchy underpants the search will go on, in a professional manner and if i am fortunate enough to unearth anything of interest then our friends in PAS will have the benefit of yet again valuable artefacts found by metal detectors.
I did read your comment through your blog, of which brought the scenario of Ostrich and sand sprang to mind. Or in the more suitable Roman reference in this case Cranium and Anus both of which requires one to be observant by looking around and realising that metal detectors are willing to help but if you keep the upper part of your body hidden in the sand, the lower part may possibly end up as a new resting place for the new Garrett pro pointer.



 


Title: Re: Advice on Pasture land
Post by: Dryland on February 08, 2013, 11:15:07 PM
well said Alun, i'd patent that idea for the pro pointer holder
if I were you, before somebody else uses it  ;D ;D


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