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Title: stumped Post by: legio11augustus on November 28, 2012, 12:21:56 AM wonder if anyone could shed some light on this artifact, its a metal detecting find thats on sale on flea bay, looks to have some age about 2 1/2" in diameter and of brass..any ideas on age or origins, as its bugging the hell outa me
Title: Re: stumped Post by: legio11augustus on November 29, 2012, 02:03:22 PM bump
Title: Re: stumped Post by: Neil on November 29, 2012, 02:10:41 PM Any chance of a larger image mate - its hard to make it out
Cheers Neil Title: Re: stumped Post by: legio11augustus on November 29, 2012, 04:56:40 PM hi neil , hope this works ..bigger pic ..it sold on flea bay for over £200
Title: Re: stumped Post by: Mike on November 29, 2012, 05:07:14 PM £200 result :) :) :) :) :)
ask the buyer what it is/was mate . Title: Re: stumped Post by: Chef Geoff on November 29, 2012, 06:56:22 PM £265 :o The finder has cleaned it with brasso, that alone would put me off as it's lost any sign of age and could be modern. It looks as if it has "1620" on it and my bet would be a horse brass/mount, though with 30 bids it looks as if a few people know what it is.
Title: Re: stumped Post by: The Doc on November 29, 2012, 09:04:18 PM It's a 'Billy and Charley' , or possibly a modern copy of one. See here:
http://www.mernick.org.uk/B&C/page1.htm (http://www.mernick.org.uk/B&C/page1.htm) and here: http://www.mernick.org.uk/B%26C/images.htm (http://www.mernick.org.uk/B%26C/images.htm) Title: Re: stumped Post by: legio11augustus on November 29, 2012, 09:36:09 PM thnk your smack on there doc , great shout ...thanks for the responses fellas
Title: Re: stumped Post by: Chef Geoff on November 29, 2012, 09:46:38 PM What a nice find for somebody but is it £265 worth ???
Title: Re: stumped Post by: legio11augustus on November 29, 2012, 11:16:50 PM no its a bit rich for my blood, but bet the heart thumped a bit finding that.but its a forgery but probably has a value but not £260 worth
Title: Re: stumped Post by: Da Monkey on November 30, 2012, 02:30:13 PM I've read about Billy & Charlie before and enjoyed the write up on Doc's link, personally I'd be very happy to find one one day :)
The exact one posted is on page 5 of the gallery 3rd row down, so Doc was spot on :) http://www.mernick.org.uk/B%26C/badgeindex5.htm (http://www.mernick.org.uk/B%26C/badgeindex5.htm) Title: Re: stumped Post by: jamiepearce on March 27, 2013, 07:12:41 AM I've read about Billy & Charlie before and enjoyed the write up on Doc's link, personally I'd be very happy to find one one day :) The exact one posted is on page 5 of the gallery 3rd row down, so Doc was spot on :) [url]http://www.mernick.org.uk/B%26C/badgeindex5.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.mernick.org.uk/B%26C/badgeindex5.htm[/url]) Great reading ... However looks like you are looking at an original of what billy and charley would copy in lead??? Title: Re: stumped Post by: probono on March 27, 2013, 11:26:51 AM They're still horrible - although some of the items are not too bad artistically speaking!
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