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Title: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: Chef Geoff on October 29, 2012, 09:48:03 PM
I had a great day out with Deadlock and he of Psycho fame N.Bates. Well I had decided to take them on to the only bit of pasture I could find, this included 4 fields I have only spent a few hours on but with known Roman habitation.
I'll say now that as has been regular of late today was not to be my day with only a Georgian grot and a Roman mount, Oh and maybe a palm guard ???
Well on with the story.......Nick had only been on the first field for about 20 mins and came the immortal words of "I've got a Roman" and so he did a late 3rd century grot. A hour later or so Al chips in with one of his own and follows it a little later with a Roman folis. We changed fields a few times after this, with Nick getting another grot and all of us getting well and truly soaked in a passing storm that was looking for New York.
It was about now that Al comes up with the suggestion of returning to the first field and so of we trot, dripping as we went :D
15 minutes later and Nick is holding aloft a 9ct gold child's signet ring, the first ring he has ever found. One proviso I always make when people come on to my land is they have got to find something good...but a gold ring ummm?

Well not half an hour later he is at it again lol but this time the word wasn't "Roman" or "Gold" but "Hoard!".
Yep he was really taking the P..s now :D And a hoard is exactly what he has found, he has retrieved 11 coins so far and through consultation with the FLO on the phone, the rest is still there awaiting her visit along with someone from the County Archaeologist's office tomorrow morning. The hole has been filled after covering the coins we could see and a fuller excavation will happen tomorrow. I think we counted 11 more poking out of the soil but how many are below these is anybodies guess.
A huge congratulations to Nick on finding a hoard and an even bigger well done for have the self restraint to not go and borrow a JCB lol


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: Neil on October 29, 2012, 10:00:44 PM
A great result guys! Well done for fighting the temptation and leaving it until FLO can join you. Am I right in thinking the last coin in the Romans group shot is a denari? Looks awfully silver in colour on the pad.

Very good of you Chef to let your guests make all the finds as usual. Your very giving!!! ;D

See you soon
Neil


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: Mungo on October 29, 2012, 10:01:25 PM
well done on the Hoard , be interesting to find out how many lurk beneath the soil...... 8) 8)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: handyman [Alan} on October 29, 2012, 10:02:20 PM
wow. well done guys.

So looking fwd to the progress report.



Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: Chef Geoff on October 29, 2012, 10:05:51 PM
Am I right in thinking the last coin in the Romans group shot is a denari? Looks awfully silver in colour on the pad.

Very good of you Chef to let your guests make all the finds as usual. Your very giving!!! ;D

See you soon
Neil

Aren't I just ::) an absolute B....y saint me. lol
No silver yet, just a trick of the light and the mud. I'll be posting reports from the field as we go tomorrow...after giving Nick a running commentry on the phone lol


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: falcon. on October 29, 2012, 10:06:31 PM
WELL DONE! CAN'T WAIT HEAR SOME MORE REPORTS TOMORROW :o :o


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: rookypair on October 29, 2012, 10:09:44 PM
Saw Al and Nick tonight at the club meeting with their finds WOW :o they were still buzzin and no wonder.  Cant wait to hear what is found tomorrow
rookypair


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: handyman [Alan} on October 29, 2012, 10:11:43 PM
The coins recovered look as if they are 3rd century radiates Geoff.  Once done, the analysis could be very interesting.


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: Chef Geoff on October 29, 2012, 10:16:12 PM
I've only cleaned the mud off one and yes it's Claudius II 268-270, but that late 3rd early 4th is the same as other coins found on different fields belonging to the same habitation site.


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: Mike on October 29, 2012, 10:16:22 PM
wow , well found , hope theres a bucket full down there  :) :) :)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: WeCan-Octavian on October 29, 2012, 10:22:28 PM
Geoff geoff geoff, thank you so very much for your hospitality i couldnt have asked for a better host ;D it was a great day and i look forward to having a chat  tommorow lol. i best go take some calms before i hit the sack!!!!


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: rjm on October 29, 2012, 10:23:01 PM

WoW!  Well done.  :)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: handyman [Alan} on October 29, 2012, 10:23:49 PM
I've only cleaned the mud off one and yes it's Claudius II 278-280, but that late 3rd early 4th is the same as other coins found on different fields belonging to the same habitation site.

Right in the middle of one of the Reece spikes of coinage minted  [due to inflationary pressures]. As i said, the analysis will be very very interesting indeed.  whats the betting they all fall within the range  276 to 286!


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: Chef Geoff on October 29, 2012, 11:58:27 PM
And if anyone would like to know which top flight machine Nick was using...it was a Garrett Euro Ace  :o but he did have a Detech 12"x 15" SEF on one end and a pair of Chefphones on the other  ;D


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: markymark123 on October 30, 2012, 12:16:22 AM
WOW well done guys hope you find alot more buried under there tomorrow  :)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: bymatt666 (byron) on October 30, 2012, 12:30:17 AM
a great find and story....well done.....i look forward to the progress report with great anticipation...... ;).......byron


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: geordiefred on October 30, 2012, 05:52:14 AM
well done guys fingers crossed for you  ;)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: Pipster on October 30, 2012, 06:40:20 AM
Well done guys .. can't wait for the update  ;) 


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: charles price on October 30, 2012, 06:59:49 AM
great news guys,,,well done...


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: DEADLOCK on October 30, 2012, 07:15:27 AM
Thank you Chef for a great day. Well done nick on the hoard of romans and gold ring will look forward to here how the digs goes tday. Once again thank you chef.


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: gijan on October 30, 2012, 07:20:35 AM
well done diggers fab news,fab machine... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: Roman (Ray) on October 30, 2012, 09:38:51 AM
welldone on the hoard..hope its a big one guys look forward to this evenings report...again welldone all...

ray


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: beachboy (viv) on October 30, 2012, 02:13:31 PM
chef,what a great day out look forward to the report well done boys.viv


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: MuckMan on October 30, 2012, 05:54:43 PM
Great find lads, looking forward to finding out how many more are buried there.


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: Villan (Neil) on October 30, 2012, 06:24:54 PM
Congratulations to you all  ;) Fantastic discovery :o
Good on ya Geoff,topman 8)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: anthonyjay on October 30, 2012, 06:39:50 PM
Well done Geoff, I can see why you're so chuffed


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol
Post by: Chef Geoff on October 30, 2012, 06:57:45 PM
Well the grand score was 44, coins deposited in what appears to be a leather bag. It was fascinating watching the excavation and the evidence it could reveal, it made me feel quite guilty about just digging a hole lol.
From what can be gleaned from the dig, the bag was deposited below the floor level and next to a wall, whether inside or out can't be told without a lager scale excavation but the obvious thought is that it was inside.

We need a bit of room. Laura educating the Farmer.
(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chef_02/dwpost3.jpg)

That's better
(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chef_02/DWpost.jpg)

Scraping back the years
(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chef_02/dwpost6.jpg)

Getting close
(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chef_02/dwpost5.jpg)

The bag becomes more obvious (dark area next to hand)
(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chef_02/dwpost1.jpg)

Extended trench shows the wall
(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chef_02/dwpost4.jpg)

So not only has Nick found a hoard he has also added an unknown building to the record. All the coins would appear to be radiates but official mint and so looks as if they were selectively chosen, too early to tell for certain but first thoughts are that they are all from the reigns of Gallienus and Claudius II  so 260-272 AD.


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: Val Beechey on October 30, 2012, 07:23:46 PM
Thats realy interesting, Geoff. Thanks for posting the picis. Thats a good sized wall as well. Wonder what sort of building it was.

Contrats to all.

Val


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: handyman [Alan} on October 30, 2012, 07:26:43 PM
Well done Geoff, great follow up report. 

Congrats to all concerned.


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: anthonyjay on October 30, 2012, 07:37:18 PM
I agree with the other comments, well done on the follow-up


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: Da Monkey on October 30, 2012, 08:14:36 PM
Wow  :o  Very well done Nick and everyone, great pics as well Chef :)  Well thats set the standard, I'll expect a hoard of my own as well when we get that day out you mentioned  one day Chef  ;)  LOL


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: celticspikey on October 30, 2012, 09:05:36 PM
I had a great day out with Deadlock and he of Psycho fame N.Bates. Well I had decided to take them on to the only bit of pasture I could find, this included 4 fields I have only spent a few hours on but with known Roman habitation.
I'll say now that as has been regular of late today was not to be my day with only a Georgian grot and a Roman mount, Oh and maybe a palm guard ???
Well on with the story.......Nick had only been on the first field for about 20 mins and came the immortal words of "I've got a Roman" and so he did a late 3rd century grot. A hour later or so Al chips in with one of his own and follows it a little later with a Roman folis. We changed fields a few times after this, with Nick getting another grot and all of us getting well and truly soaked in a passing storm that was looking for New York.
It was about now that Al comes up with the suggestion of returning to the first field and so of we trot, dripping as we went :D
15 minutes later and Nick is holding aloft a 9ct gold child's signet ring, the first ring he has ever found. One proviso I always make when people come on to my land is they have got to find something good...but a gold ring ummm?

Well not half an hour later he is at it again lol but this time the word wasn't "Roman" or "Gold" but "Hoard!".
Yep he was really taking the P..s now :D And a hoard is exactly what he has found, he has retrieved 11 coins so far and through consultation with the FLO on the phone, the rest is still there awaiting her visit along with someone from the County Archaeologist's office tomorrow morning. The hole has been filled after covering the coins we could see and a fuller excavation will happen tomorrow. I think we counted 11 more poking out of the soil but how many are below these is anybodies guess.
A huge congratulations to Nick on finding a hoard and an even bigger well done for have the self restraint to not go and borrow a JCB lol
Wow guys great day out super story unfolding here,congratulations ;)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: bymatt666 (byron) on October 30, 2012, 09:24:05 PM
great pics geoff,,,,,, ;D.......they really tell the story of the excavation.... ;)....well done to everyone involved, from discovery to unearthing the hoard......byron


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: rjm on October 30, 2012, 10:12:50 PM


Nice pics and update. Thanks. Very interesting.  :)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: Mungo on October 30, 2012, 11:09:36 PM
great pics and follow up ........... 8) nice one , you won't forget that in a hurry....


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: jaydogg on October 30, 2012, 11:46:00 PM
Did they take any levels or do any planning Geoff? How exactly did they record the hoard?  I know with watching briefs a lot of the time it's just the minimum of recording and as I have never been privy to partake in an excavation of this nature (of what is essentially a single find) I was wondering how it was recorded? Cheers.


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: Chef Geoff on October 31, 2012, 05:05:01 AM
No, no surveying was carried out but I guess due to financial restrictions and not knowing about the building would limit the amount of recording necessary. Recording was by GPS for location, physical measure of the coin and bag area also that of the trench and the relation to the wall and it's orientation. Scale photographs were taken and grid drawing was done. ;)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: Pipster on October 31, 2012, 06:47:52 AM
Super pic's and report Geoff ... and a big well done to one and all  ;)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: DEADLOCK on October 31, 2012, 06:57:54 AM
Great write up high standard to the max well done so very interesting


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: WeCan-Octavian on October 31, 2012, 07:34:47 AM
Thank you Geoff once again for the day out and as usual a brilliant write up. Regardless of who found it, its always a team effort in my eyes and always see an invite to someone elses permission as real priviledge, your a true gentlemen!! its who your with that makes up 90% of the day with the banter and a good chat and laugh. I certainly will take and treasure this memory to my grave (Or unless im unfortunate enough to get Alzheimer's!!!!) Ive come a long way since i started detecting in january with my old Garrett Ace 100!!! and wouldnt have kept an interest if it wasnt for all the brilliant people in the hobby and mainly the wealth of knowledge on Detecting Wales.

Big pat on the back to everyone who keeps this hobby alive.

Nick


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: DEADLOCK on October 31, 2012, 07:38:42 AM
Thank you Geoff once again for the day out and as usual a brilliant write up. Regardless of who found it, its always a team effort in my eyes and always see an invite to someone elses permission as real priviledge, your a true gentlemen!! its who your with that makes up 90% of the day with the banter and a good chat and laugh. I certainly will take and treasure this memory to my grave (Or unless im unfortunate enough to get Alzheimer's!!!!) Ive come a long way since i started detecting in january with my old Garrett Ace 100!!! and wouldnt have kept an interest if it wasnt for all the brilliant people in the hobby and mainly the wealth of knowledge on Detecting Wales.  :D

Big pat on the back to everyone who keeps this hobby alive.

Gonna make me cry now.

Nick


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: carling68 on October 31, 2012, 07:43:13 PM
 :ogood one nick.look forward to hear further results


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: WeCan-Octavian on December 28, 2012, 06:38:05 PM
The Garrett searcher newsletter decided to do a little write up!!! page 37

http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/searcher_pdf/searcher_winter_2013_2.pdf (http://www.garrett.com/hobbysite/searcher_pdf/searcher_winter_2013_2.pdf)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: glynkid on December 29, 2012, 05:35:16 AM
Well done I hope mant more turn up I remember a small hoard of roman coins being    f ound on a club dig and the excitment of finding them


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: dances with badgers on December 30, 2012, 04:58:22 PM
awsome result guys ,you lucky peeps ,very nice


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: probono on January 02, 2013, 11:31:38 AM
Great find - love the 'side shot' with the coins still stacked.

How long did it take the FLO to come out and excavate?


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: WeCan-Octavian on January 02, 2013, 11:35:11 AM
Hi Probono the FLO excavated the next day!!!


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: dances with badgers on January 03, 2013, 04:34:44 AM
 :)nice, one day lol :)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: WeCan-Octavian on January 11, 2014, 06:33:09 PM
Hi all

Its been a while!! i have an update for my hoard. It went through the treasure process and was disclaimed by the british museum, its now in the process of been returned to myself.

Thanks again Geoff for the once in a lifetime memory (up to now :) )

When im up and running scanner and all, ill post my letters/ID for ya all to have gander over.

Cheers Nick


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Post by: anthonyjay on January 11, 2014, 06:34:49 PM
Good one mate, looking forward to the images etc.


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: congerman on January 11, 2014, 06:43:05 PM
super finds :o well searched good luck tomorrow  ;)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: legio11augustus on January 11, 2014, 06:56:46 PM
missed this 1st time around .. what a cracker of a read ,still goes to show whats still out there


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: sharkey on January 11, 2014, 07:05:44 PM
fantastic story  :)

congratulations on the hoard  8)

Sharkey


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Post by: Dryland on January 11, 2014, 07:13:12 PM
Nice one Nick, when is Geoff taking you again ;D ;D


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Post by: welsh john on January 11, 2014, 07:14:21 PM
It only goes to show that with the right equipment and the right person you can find the goods,the euro ace is a cheap machine but it performs really well,perhaps any machine can find the good stuff if it as a good coil and phones fitted.It may be better to buy a cheap detector and upgrade the coil and phones.Maybe forum members can add some comments on the matter. :-\


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Post by: jcb (THE THIMBLE) jones on January 11, 2014, 07:34:41 PM
just been reading this , wow this is what it's all about cracking well done all , super chef phones doing a cracking job


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: liner on January 11, 2014, 07:51:17 PM
I also missed this first time around ... great read and congratulations to all of you  ;)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: matthewbullingham123 on January 11, 2014, 08:24:37 PM
i missed this aswell! Great read and well done :D


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Post by: Svaipa on January 13, 2014, 07:52:39 AM
Don't know how I could have missed this post ?!  What a day out ! Great photos of the coins still in the soil, must have given a fantastic signal.


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 17, 2014, 06:37:21 PM
Just had an email from Nick, it's all now been finalised and put to bed. The details have been logged on PAS, photos to follow ;)

http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/527842 (http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/527842)


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: WeCan-Octavian on January 17, 2014, 06:48:59 PM
I just have to gather them up off the Yorkshire flo now, when they finally arrive up here


Title: Re: Some people just have no manners lol. Updated
Post by: matthewbullingham123 on January 17, 2014, 08:42:22 PM
very detailed report ! well found


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