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Title: Berkshire Today Post by: staterchaser on April 17, 2012, 09:01:02 PM Another GR8 day out with Ray, Ian and Phil today to a new farm for us in Berkshire. All had some interesting finds, I'll leave the lads to put their stuff up. My best find was a hammered practically the last hole of the day. Would appreciate id, looks a bit different from the usual.
Sorry about the quality of the pics just come in and shattered. Ceri Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Zeus (Joel) on April 17, 2012, 09:21:26 PM nice find
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Chef Geoff on April 17, 2012, 09:30:28 PM Excellent result Ceri and as you say a little different, from what I can see I'd say it's a penny of William I, so pretty damn rare. Pity about the ware on it but still a nice find.
If you have a Spink to hand try it for size against 1250 ??? Still looking for a mint? Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: staterchaser on April 17, 2012, 09:34:48 PM Excellent result Ceri and as you say a little different, from what I can see I'd say it's a penny of William I and possibly Stafford mint, so pretty damn rare. Pity about the ware on it but still a nice find. Thanks Geoff, havent got a spinks :( gr8 news if ur right, thought it might have been saxon. Close! ;)If you have a Spink to hand try it for size against 1250 ??? Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Roman (Ray) on April 17, 2012, 09:35:12 PM yes. another great day yet again lads.myself i did manage to find 2 romans which ill add to the thread tommorow as im way to tired to take a shot of them this evening.lol.
but i have a great shot of the lads before we started the day. and a lovely photo of the farm from the above fields. Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Dyson on April 17, 2012, 09:59:33 PM Thanks for a great day guys and well done Ray and Ceri on your great finds never mind Phil our turn next ;)
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Chef Geoff on April 17, 2012, 10:14:23 PM OK I'm nailing my colours to the mast with....... William the Conqueror and Thetford mint.
I shall now wait for Peter to get here and see my ID crash and burn lol Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: wayno on April 18, 2012, 07:31:40 AM Well done Ceri looks like you all had a good day
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Pipster on April 18, 2012, 09:42:04 AM A super day guys ..Nice coin Ceri well done looks even better in the flesh ;) here are a few of my bits .....
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: colin on April 18, 2012, 10:38:48 AM Great day out lads and cracking pics and to top it off with a penny of that king,wow
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: staterchaser on April 18, 2012, 10:58:11 AM A super day guys ..Nice coin Ceri well done looks even better in the flesh ;) here are a few of my bits ..... Yes it was a good day, and yes the hammered looks a lot better in the flesh! I like ur watch winder and poss saxon/medieval belt fitting nice one! Team pic is a cracker ha! :DTitle: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Roman (Ray) on April 18, 2012, 11:25:22 AM welldone pipster great finds mate.love the watch winder.
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Pipster on April 18, 2012, 11:27:30 AM It gets better mate just been on the blower to geoff I did find Saxon
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Chef Geoff on April 18, 2012, 11:30:33 AM Well Pipster emailed me a couple of shots this morning just to get an id on some of his finds, well....................Sorry Ceri you have been knocked into second place lol
One of his finds is a Saxon Chatelaine and a real cracker at that, difficult to date for certain and could be anywhere in the Saxon period but for my money dates between the 8th and 11th centuries. Very well done Phil ;) (http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chef_02/pipschat.jpg) This is the PAS record to a similar one; (http://finds.org.uk/images/thumbnails/326507.jpg)<acronym title="The Portable Antiquities Scheme">PAS</acronym> record number: BH-000223 Object type: Chatelaine Broadperiod: Early Medieval County of discovery: Hertfordshire Stable url: <a href="http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/440458" title="BH-000223: a Early Medieval Chatelaine">http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/440458 (http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/440458)[/url] Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: staterchaser on April 18, 2012, 11:51:45 AM Awesome Pipster, well spotted Geoff. Fantastic find although I did have to look up what a Chatelaine was ;D Worn by Saxon women as belt decoration yeh?
Oh I wanna go back there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Roman (Ray) on April 18, 2012, 11:52:03 AM wwooww welldone on your first saxon find stud..great find partner.the last half hour before we left i was finder of the day with 2 roman.you and mr staterchaser knocked me into third place in half hour.im not impressed..lol..fancy ianjohn taking last place..lol.sorry ian..hehe.not like ian.
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Da Monkey on April 18, 2012, 11:56:10 AM Sharp shooting guys :) Looks a nice farm :)
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Pipster on April 18, 2012, 12:19:55 PM Awesome Pipster, well spotted Geoff. Fantastic find although I did have to look up what a Chatelaine was ;D Worn by Saxon women as belt decoration yeh? Oh I wanna go back there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Me toooooooo and soon ;D Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Chef Geoff on April 18, 2012, 12:39:05 PM Post up your Roman coins Ray, lets see what dates your dealing with ;)
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Roman (Ray) on April 18, 2012, 12:39:05 PM hehe. ;D
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Roman (Ray) on April 18, 2012, 12:56:53 PM well i found 2 romans one is whole but blank.nout on it...and i also found just over half of one.
id still like mr cheffy to id it for me.my guess was its constantine.but proberbly not.so ill leave my guess to chef. cheers geoff. Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Chef Geoff on April 18, 2012, 01:08:34 PM Very well winkled Ray, I can't be certain at all from that piece but I think your partly right in that it's house of Constantine but later than Constantine himself. The style looks more the elongated head type which becomes the norm around the middle of the 4th, Constantius II ??? ;)
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Roman (Ray) on April 18, 2012, 01:10:43 PM Very well winkled Ray, I can't be certain at all from that piece but I think your partly right in that it's house of Constantine but later than Constantine himself. The style looks more the elongated head type which becomes the norm around the middle of the 4th, Constantius II ??? ;) thanks chef for your time mucker !!Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 18, 2012, 05:05:51 PM i agree with Geoff, it's certainly a later house of constantine. The elongated heads are always fun to identify. well found Ray, Ceri Ian and the one and only Pipster ..
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Chef Geoff on April 18, 2012, 05:12:25 PM and the one and only Pipster .. Thank God ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: nomad on April 18, 2012, 05:18:35 PM ;D ;D well winkled the four of you....looks like you had a good day.
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: colin on April 18, 2012, 05:46:55 PM i think the norman penny is william 1 thetford mint not sure if moneyer is godwine the reverse legend might read godpine on deoti and obverse pillemvs rex be nice to get one right just wait for the doc ;)
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: daimole on April 18, 2012, 06:11:29 PM Very nice finds :o looks like a brilliant site well done boys ;)
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Chef Geoff on April 18, 2012, 06:13:22 PM i think the saxon penny is william 1 You mean Norman penny :DTitle: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: colin on April 18, 2012, 06:31:47 PM yes norman penny changed it now geoff ;)
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: staterchaser on April 18, 2012, 09:56:46 PM i think the norman penny is william 1 thetford mint not sure if moneyer is godwine the reverse legend might read godpine on deoti and obverse pillemvs rex be nice to get one right just wait for the doc ;) Cheers Colin for the input, hope to have it confirmed soon! ;)Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: colin on April 19, 2012, 10:50:24 AM No probs mate just hope i am close enough would love to find one
Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: The Doc on April 19, 2012, 10:17:13 PM Great find Ceri.
I'm a beginner on ID'ing Norman coinage, but it does look to me like William I and the reverse legend appears to be GOD ON ÐEOTFORD. This would be Thetford mint and the moneyer Goda. One for Ed Besly to take a look at I think! Incidentally, the chatelaine could be much later, see here: http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=30171&cat=all (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=30171&cat=all) Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: staterchaser on April 19, 2012, 10:25:38 PM Great find Ceri. Thanks Pete, that's gr8. I'll get it off to Edward Besley next week. :)I'm a beginner on ID'ing Norman coinage, but it does look to me like William I and the reverse legend appears to be GOD ON ÐEOTFORD. This would be Thetford mint and the moneyer Goda. One for Ed Besly to take a look at I think! Incidentally, the chatelaine could be much later, see here: [url]http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=30171&cat=all[/url] ([url]http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=30171&cat=all[/url]) Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: Chef Geoff on April 19, 2012, 10:56:38 PM I think that UKDFD assumption is slightly tenuous and a bit sweeping. The 18th-19th version is silver and couldn't it be a Victorian reproduction as they did like everything from the medieval/classical world in their fashions?
Below is a silver Fibula, the style of which both PAS and UKDFD have listed as being Roman but Chef believes they are modern as the one below can be bought in Taunton museum for £20 :D Sorry for the sarcasm but you understand what I'm getting at ;) Title: Re: Berkshire Today Post by: saxonman on April 20, 2012, 11:50:20 AM Well Pipster emailed me a couple of shots this morning just to get an id on some of his finds, well....................Sorry Ceri you have been knocked into second place lol One of his finds is a Saxon Chatelaine and a real cracker at that, difficult to date for certain and could be anywhere in the Saxon period but for my money dates between the 8th and 11th centuries. Very well done Phil ;) ([url]http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chef_02/pipschat.jpg[/url]) This is the PAS record to a similar one; ([url]http://finds.org.uk/images/thumbnails/326507.jpg[/url])<acronym title="The Portable Antiquities Scheme">PAS</acronym> record number: BH-000223 Object type: Chatelaine Broadperiod: Early Medieval County of discovery: Hertfordshire Stable url: <a href="[url]http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/440458[/url]" title="BH-000223: a Early Medieval Chatelaine">[url]http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/440458[/url] ([url]http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/440458[/url])[/url] |