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Title: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: The Ferret on January 20, 2012, 06:40:26 PM
Hi guys
popped over to a new field and found some oldish coins and these strange things oh a bit of clay pipe too
id please


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: Neil on January 20, 2012, 06:43:13 PM
Has bottom left got a hole in it towards the bottom on the reverse?

The bit sticking out of the pipe patifact is so you could rest it on a table or flat surface, so its a later one - age wise.

Neil


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: The Ferret on January 20, 2012, 06:55:59 PM
Has bottom left got a hole in it towards the bottom on the reverse?

The bit sticking out of the pipe patifact is so you could rest it on a table or flat surface, so its a later one - age wise.

Neil

Cheers Neil all this came out of one field I was just test scanning could it be  a dumping ground?
Cheers
TF


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 20, 2012, 07:02:31 PM
3rd and 4th pic shows a barrel tap, 17th-19th century ??? Good going Morley


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: The Ferret on January 20, 2012, 07:06:21 PM
3rd and 4th pic shows a barrel tap, 17th-19th century ??? Good going Morley
Cheers mate just need the plonk to go with it now lol  ;D


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: The Ferret on January 20, 2012, 07:07:46 PM
The Heart to me seems to be a clothes fastener  ??? OMG  ;D


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 20, 2012, 07:13:16 PM
No too big and no way of attaching it, plus the heart wasn't ??? a used symbol that far back


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: Neil on January 20, 2012, 07:22:50 PM
I agree Chef - barrel tap - hence my hole question. ;)

Well done
Neil


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 20, 2012, 07:32:00 PM
Neil how have you got a "bottom left"? I've just got one line of photographs?
Why would it have a hole near the bottom? lol they just have one going straight through.


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: Neil on January 20, 2012, 07:54:14 PM
Only one photo when I posted my reply Geoff - you need to spend more time on here mate! ;)

They have what we term a sprinkler hole today in cellar terms,  if you have a look about half a centimetre in circumfrence - you can see it on the newly added photos.

Neil


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 20, 2012, 08:02:08 PM
I Know Neil, just not enough hours in the day  ;D
Do you mean the normal "flow" hole.


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: Neil on January 20, 2012, 08:12:08 PM
You need to find a few more hours! :)

No mate - the flow is just straight as I am presuming its hollow all the way down. The areator hole is normally on the side about 2/3rds of the way down - its allows air into the tap and gives you the froth on ale or makes cider a tad more lively.

A pub I looked after the cellar for 6 years {Pub date circa late 1600's} still had 1800's barrel taps in it - which granted had been customised to allow new lines. The cellar was absolutely freezing and hence the beer perfect - stone walled and flag stoned floor. CAMRA winner for many years.

I have a few of the later 1800's barrell taps (but not truely taps in the original sense fo the word - wheres the punch point to mallet it in} and they all have the hole towards the bottom and obviously hollow.

Neil
 


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 20, 2012, 08:14:45 PM
AHHHH! your talking about the holes on the spigot end of a tap, this is just the handle and valve which fits inside the tap.
This is the bit that's missing
(http://finds.org.uk/images/thumbnails/273580.jpg)


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: The Ferret on January 21, 2012, 08:49:56 AM
You need to find a few more hours! :)

No mate - the flow is just straight as I am presuming its hollow all the way down. The areator hole is normally on the side about 2/3rds of the way down - its allows air into the tap and gives you the froth on ale or makes cider a tad more lively.

A pub I looked after the cellar for 6 years {Pub date circa late 1600's} still had 1800's barrel taps in it - which granted had been customised to allow new lines. The cellar was absolutely freezing and hence the beer perfect - stone walled and flag stoned floor. CAMRA winner for many years.

I have a few of the later 1800's barrell taps (but not truely taps in the original sense fo the word - wheres the punch point to mallet it in} and they all have the hole towards the bottom and obviously hollow.

Neil
 
Morning Neil
Its not Hollow in the middle ??? Could it be some kind of string instrument turning key?
Cheers
TF


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 21, 2012, 10:16:10 AM
No Morley it's as I said the tap or turning part like this.

(http://finds.org.uk/images/thumbnails/152489.jpg)<acronym title="The Portable Antiquities Scheme">PAS</acronym> record number: SOM-901263

Object type: Tap

Broadperiod: Medieval

County of discovery: Somerset

Stable url: <a href="http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/193295" title="SOM-901263: a Medieval Tap">http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/193295 (http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/193295)[/url]


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: win on January 21, 2012, 11:14:17 AM
The heart will have been part of a horse harness decoration, I've found similar.


Title: Re: 20th Jan Finds a LOVE HEART??
Post by: peanut on January 23, 2012, 02:57:23 PM
the disc at the bottom is it a coin ? or a token ?  when they have a hole it is usually for wearing around the neck isn't it like a love token ?

i've read recently that coins were worn round the neck to show allegience to whichever side you supported in the Civil War in case you got caught it would indicate which side you were on but not be incriminating to those not aware of the significance .?

Ok Ok tell me I'm talking a load of horlicks again  ::)   ;D


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