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last week at the swansea rally a very nice artifact turned up found by griffmeister , as it turned out its a replica / reproduction and unfortunately not the real deal .

it appears there are many such items readily available on ebay etc and it has been suggested that the item was planted or taken to the rally on the day .

PLEASE NOTE I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANY SUCH GOINGS ON AND I CAN ASSURE YOU I WOULD NEVER TAKE PART IN SUCH A SCAM , IF INDEED THATS WHAT IT IS .

MY ONLY INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS MATTER IS THE THREAD AND PHOTO'S I POSTED .



                                                                                                      TTHANKS , MIKE

Tis a shame I know but sorry to say ,I did say so on the second page of the original thread .>>>>
  " However sorry to pi$$ on the finders parade but ,I`ve seen  modern day Brass fakes with the verdigris looking just like that (patchy)and it makes me wonder. "

if it was a "set up" then whoever it was have had their fun now.I think its a lovely item all the same!!!!!

A good prank, if it was,but maybe it should have ended the same time as the rally.

mike,sorry to hear that mate it looked great,but if someone did do that they must have a sick sense of humour and mentally unstable that's my opinion.viv

i agree with metalmickey on a recent dig a gentleman showed me a silver denarius i asked were he found it he pointed to another field so went over to it found nothing,At the end of the day at the finds table asked the the fella there has anyone seen the denarius and i gave a descripsion of the guy and he said he`s done it before he brings finds to digs and tells everyone he found them on the day :( why do it its just a sad thing to do if the person on here or if anyone knows this person they should be banned from the site and further digs for a year :) just for putting the finder of the fake horse through the mill end of rant lol

It is also a horrible feeling when you know it happens. I happened to grid a section of ground after finding two modern silvers at the Kinnersley rally and did this for a good twenty minutes covering a piece of ground about 15 x 15 feet in the search for more. Found no more and stopped about 10 foot away when someone I knew came in the field and I know them well enough to have regular conversations switched their tector on and right in the middle where you could see a mass of footprints where I had just grided dug a two / three inch hole and turned round with a nice artifact in their hand. No  Way......... I am very disappointed but what can you do. Their is no way Of stopping this practice but why people feel the need to do this is beyond me. It is one of many occasions I have been suspicious of the practice and in no way paints a picture of Organisers and fellow honest detectorists but as a member of Detecting wales which promotes the safe honest reporting of finds It is good to see we can police ourselves and make this site as honest as possible.

Guys ! its been going on for Donkeys years on Rallys and in your local Club find of the month tables.  There will Always be the few oddballs that for some reason cannot bear not being able to genuinly put something up which they`ve genuinley found , so ! they resort to buying the item in and presenting it "as found".  Its sad I know , but its a fact of life . They are little people craving attention and recognition.
  On the other hand there are the pranksters who love taking " plants" along to Rallys or digs and planting them to fool or set up some one.  Jokers who don`t have anything better to do .
Unfortunately a " Hobby hazard ". ;D

Its not just his hobby. I remember playing a game of golf and watched a 'senior member' pick up a ball to clean it, it was about 11 inches from the hole. He then replaced the ball about 8 inches from the hole. Obviously he didn't realize he was being watched but just goes to show.

sorry but is it just me or is it way to clean to be out of the filed, for one theres no patana on it and the brass/bronze is far to shiny

Mike , still a stunning find , regarding the prank its not nice but you always get one who will do it sad but thats the way it goes , lol i like the response about people saying ohhh i had this and that on rallie where nothing was find but you always say ohh welldone even if the patina is completly different to the soil , so now i am talking to the one who plant things add few sovereign or hammered be much appreciated , eventually the people who organise rallies will get fed up about this sort of rubbish and they will stop finding land and i dont blame them at all . Respect and detect all. Nap .

It's unfortunate that you got caught up in this prank Mike. I'm not the only one who has caught people out with their so called finds.They are just glory hunters in their sad little world. Instead of telling them I have sussed them out I say nothing, not worth it.
A classic example was a south Wales detectorist a few years ago was telling all of his magnificent bronze torc which he had found. Keen to see a picture he sent it to another detectorist. What the dipstick didnt realise was that the info html embeded in the file was still in the photograph. Once double clicked took you straight to the ebay page where he had bought it.  :D ;D :D
There has been some interesting pics on this site also, youd be surprised what info is hidden in the file. A picture tells a thousand words.  ;)

And time and dates ;D
Glad it's not just me that sometimes checks Ceri ;)

Even down to the make and model of camera  ::)

Wow what a debate....i have to say that mike was right behind me when i plucked this baby out from the soil and have to agree with the title of this thread that as far as i am aware Mike only took the photos and started the thread........... ;D

Still Griffmiester, regardless of debate you made a decent find there m8. What machine were you using?

I own a Garrett Euroace Mike............ ;D

And, if your using a smart phone... BEWARE

Some of them will record the geo-location !!!!! (If its turned on) So best take some time out to learn what your own camera is capable of and doing!

I was gobsmacked two years ago when I put a photo of my doggies into Google Picasa and when I viewed it, there was a map of the quarantine kennels where they were imprisoned at the time!

on the next rally can someone please plant some gold coins or hammies for me to find thanks.aint had a hammie since easter.what is the point in taking your own stuff,april fools day a long way off lol

Will the saddo please own up eh  ???

saddo's tend not to teen.i have heard many peolpe talk of the organisers planting stuff to get people intersted in the rallies to line their own pockets on the next ones.
 this is a widespread opinion

I would just like to let it be known that this was not a 'Swansea Rally'. We at the request of the organiser
invited detectorists from our end to detect on this farm along with detectorists invited by the organizer himself..
It was well attended by Swansea Club members, but as stated was not a 'Swansea Rally', although we did assist in the running of it.. Swansea had no knowledge of this incident/wind up prior to it occurring, and had nothing to do with it, and we don't condone it.
Dave Hughes. Sec. Swansea MDC. (Was present at the Rally)

Yes it wasnt a detecting rallie hold by Swansea club , we all been invited as individual , the end of the day its your choice to say yes you want to go or not , concerning that mystery horse i would be over the moon to find it  ;D but yes wasnt many finds but few nice hammered turned up and had a lovely bag seal not much but thats the way it goes .  ::) . Godd luck all and happy hunting .Nap

many appologies to dave , gloria all swansea members , my mistake i thought it was a swansea club rally ,

Apology accepted Mike, Thank you.
Dave.