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Title: BIRD
Post by: Kev on September 06, 2011, 04:25:36 PM
hi Peter or Chef any idea's please is it a mount !! and is it roman ,made of bronze and its 27mm X 35 mm in size. thanks kev.


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: Mike on September 06, 2011, 04:33:30 PM
lovey thing mate , roman coat / armour hook what does it matter its superb


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: Terra (Mike) on September 06, 2011, 04:34:12 PM
I have no idea , but i love it , peronally its my favourite find of the rally , don't know why., nice one Kev


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: rjm on September 06, 2011, 04:36:06 PM


If it's not Roman I'll eat my hat!  ;D

Looks similar to others in my book Roman artefacts.


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: Chef Geoff on September 06, 2011, 04:56:21 PM
Hi Kev and what a cracking find, are there any other fixing points on the reverse other than the loop at the top?
I'm pretty happy with the Roman bit, as Bob has said it does look similar to others and not far removed from the one on the Muppet show ;D
If there are no fixing points then as the hoop is the wrong way for a pendant then my guess would be a steel yard weight. There are quite a few different figures portrayed on copper alloy weights, but it's only a maybe ;)


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: nobby on September 06, 2011, 04:59:20 PM
HAHAHAHA........the muppet show indeed ;D


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: Neil on September 06, 2011, 05:05:46 PM
Kev - its definately Roman in my untrained eye and a stunning find.

No matter what you do though, please, please, please do NOT let RJM clean it for you! ;)

Great find mate - pop a bit of renaissance wax on it and it will come up a treat!

Neil


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: Kev on September 06, 2011, 05:25:23 PM
cheers guys for your comments on it. this is the back of it no other fixings on it Chef.!


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: Zorro on September 06, 2011, 05:30:13 PM
Firstly Kev stunning find, and the best i had seen that day.
Kev for those who hadn't seen it "in person" any chance of including a photo of the side profile of the Eagle ?
If it's not Roman then i will happily watch RJM eat his hat (though i dont think for a second it isn't Roman...especially as there were plenty of Roman coinage in the area too)
Benets Artefacts, 2nd edition shows a few Roman eagle finds, admittedly some are dagger pommels (page 107/108) and mounts (page 175) but they all have very similar features, overly large eye and exaggerated curvature of the beak.
Closes i could find on UKDF is a Roman "cart fitting" (not that i think yours is) but has a striking similarity.
heres link to full description of it.
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=30097&cat=19 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=30097&cat=19)


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: Zorro on September 06, 2011, 05:37:28 PM
Sorry mate should have done it like this in beginning.


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: Villan (Neil) on September 06, 2011, 06:39:14 PM
That is an incredible find Kev, love it mate.Looks as Roman as can be to me.Well found bud  ;)


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: rjm on September 06, 2011, 06:41:01 PM
Kev - its definately Roman in my untrained eye and a stunning find.

No matter what you do though, please, please, please do NOT let RJM clean it for you! ;)

Great find mate - pop a bit of renaissance wax on it and it will come up a treat!

Neil


Joking aside, it doesn't need cleaning.


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: heather on September 06, 2011, 07:26:48 PM
wow !  its amazing. 

Take care

H


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on September 06, 2011, 08:37:56 PM
Hi Kev and what a cracking find, are there any other fixing points on the reverse other than the loop at the top?
I'm pretty happy with the Roman bit, as Bob has said it does look similar to others and not far removed from the one on the Muppet show ;D
If there are no fixing points then as the hoop is the wrong way for a pendant then my guess would be a steel yard weight. There are quite a few different figures portrayed on copper alloy weights, but it's only a maybe ;)

As a matter of interest , I saw Three Steel yard weights found so that adds another bit to the puzzle


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: Kev on September 07, 2011, 02:40:06 PM
cheers for comments Zorro this is the side view. ;)


Title: Re: BIRD
Post by: Zorro on September 07, 2011, 03:36:32 PM
Definitely looks roman to me mate. Be interesting to hear what FLO's make of it.


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