DetectingWales.com

The recent dry spell during April leading to it being the warmest since records began has meant that most of us are facing pastures like concrete!

With this in mind, I am sure many of DW's members will be heading to the beaches to get their "Detecting Fix". As such please find a link below to the Crown Estates to obtain a Metal Detecting licence. They are Free and easy to apply for.

http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/coastal/metal-detecting/metal-detecting-permit-application/ (http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/coastal/metal-detecting/metal-detecting-permit-application/)

Good luck one and all

Neil

thats o.k you guys stay inland and i will hoover up your share of the rings. ;D
 i cant seem to get on their site ,maybe cos im trying from turkey? :-\

Try this one...

http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/metal-detecting (http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/metal-detecting)

Cheers,

nup still says its redirecting me but doesnt,maybe the queen has seen my post and is scared im coming for the crown jewels lol.bloody germans  :D
 thanks for the links anyway  >:(

the link works for me  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D thanks for that

it would  ;D the sun shines out of your handbag

seems pointless getting one of these, the councils dont care if you detectet the beaches

just another way of controlling pepole

there not all council beaches ,germans sorry royals own a lot of them and national trust

unfortunately the link does'nt work for me. :(...i've tried from other sites too, to no avail......byron

http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/metal-detecting (http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/metal-detecting)

this one provided by techony, works for me.

That's the same one lol
Maybe its Geo-sensitive and considers Wales a foreign country, I knew that yes vote would go sour  ;D

als link works for me now.did'nt like a request from turkey i guess  :o

The link was not working for me. I contacted them by email and the next day I got a reply that the link was fixed. It was fixed and I got ny permit within minutes.

ZeD

at last !.. ;D...it's working again. i have now renewed my permit.... ;).....byron

these links dont seem to be working!

it's working for me, but the link breaks quite often so just keep trying.

it worked for me last week, when i renewed my permit.

Snap! I renewed mine last week too. But I did have to wait a day or two as it wasn't working (again)

Thanks cheffy done now. Wudnt work on lap top but did on my tower cpu well wierd

http://copyright.thecrownestate.co.uk/MetalDetecting/ (http://copyright.thecrownestate.co.uk/MetalDetecting/)

this link works just done it now

Couple of questions from a newbie,

I managed to download the Crown estates licence, do I need to print it out and carry it with me?

Also are there any beaches in S.Wales which are privately owned where permission to detect needs to be sought?

Thanks.

answer to both questions is yes.

if you want to see which beaches are owned by the crown, then go back to the crown estates website, and you will find some pdf's showing the crown beaches around the uk.

Just got my permit, I think I will need it on my beach. I just had T4 today, every year I find about £200 in change over the next few days. I'm sure someone from the crown will be hovering around, lol

just did mine and got the email
looking forward to the fun and excitement now
regards
jase

Ive got to warn you ,i didnt find anything more after i downloaded the permit,than when i didnt have one :'(

I just downloaded my permit from email to mobile phone and saved it....im guessing thats ok? are there officials walking round checking on who has or hasnt got 1? and if you didnt have 1 what would be the penalty? seems pretty stupid as it appears anyone who applys for one gets one in around 5 mins ,i imagine from an aurtomated email......and as you dont pay for it ,and dont need to fulfill any requitrements ,they might just as well not bother........still i guess no sense makes sense......unless of course if enough people apply they might think its worth charging a fee?

One or two of us have speculated the same Douglas. Lets hope our Prime Minister doesn't get hold of the figures  :o

You can get asked to produce it depending where you are. I know Tenby had a purge during 2011 and threatened to confiscate detectors if users were caught without a permit a second time.Didn't come to anything though.

Val

Good afternoon to all out there,
Just tried to go to the crown estate website that is posted and kept getting bad host. Instead I managed at this site for a licence http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/coastal/metal-detecting/ (http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/coastal/metal-detecting/) there is a lead from there with all the maps etc.

Wagis

Just checked the map and according to this site Aberavon & Swansea bay are not crown estates ?

Link has been updated for the Crown Estates Licence

Details here:
http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/coastal/metal-detecting/metal-detecting-permit-application/ (http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/coastal/metal-detecting/metal-detecting-permit-application/)

2016-2017 No. permit required to detect on any beach in the uk, no bit of coast line is owned or under the jurisdiction of any local councils,happy days something for free, the fact that detectorist in fact find and remove other peoples rubbish the council should be paying us.

where did you read this information ??, as some beaches are SSSI, some under the control of the National trust so would be out of bounds.

It is true, no permit for Crown Estates beaches required at present .  Just google crown estate permits.

Yes mate I know that but where does it say ok to detect on any beach in the UK, that was the bit I was querying, where he had read that. As some are transferred to the National trust, and other authorities re ownership or control.

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/rural-and-coastal/coastal/metal-detecting/maps/ (https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/rural-and-coastal/coastal/metal-detecting/maps/)
Here are the crown maps
D

Yes sorry your absolutely right some beaches are in effect out of bounds. what I was referring to was local councils trying to impose charges for locating on beaches within their area and the crown laying claims of ownership to land, No man or woman has the right to own or name land we are caretakers we do not own any bit of soil on the planet,  it is there for everyone to use my family have history going back thousands of years and have claimed nothing as their own we are stateless people.

Hmmmm; me thinks that I can detect something of a minefield here! Perhaps, like time, ownership is an illusion.

As I understand it the settlers who bought Manhattan Island for a handful of beads, walked away and thought "fools they gave up their land rights for a handful of beads".  The Indians, on the other hand, walked away and thought " fools, they think that they can own land".

Me thinks, I just stepped on a "APLM"!  ::)

Could not have put it better myself.

Uuuummmm !!!!

No permit required for 2016/17 that's great news !!! but I don't think that's the end of it.

The crown estate and London port authority have slapped a whopping  £36 for  a day licence to search eyes only and to  scrape the Thames foreshore in certain areas up to about 3 inches. A three year licence is set at £75. I fear the worst for the future of  detecting on crown estate beaches. If they can make money they will and if there's been enough of a demand I believe they will start to charge for a licence. I hope I am proved wrong but as I speak I believe they are setting the systems up to rip us off big time !! I just don't trust them ...........if they do start charging what would you do ? how could we protest ? as I say I hope I am wrong !!!   

 

I hope so as well. Better get the prayer matts out!  :'(

Ha ha Resurgam !! better still start sharpening the shovels  ;D

           Darn it; invested in a bungee and a sand scoop for me beach detecting. Good job I kept hold of me spade.

           On top of all this, I hear that they are going to issue new £1 coins and take the present ones out of circulation; starting in March!  :o

           Will have to start specialising in hammies and hoards. :)

Its an emotive concept paying for a beach licence and I am somewhat torn on it:

Part of me thinks hang on we have never had to pay, remove vast amounts of rubbish and 'sharps' from the beaches, its a non sedentary activity and promotes Health & Well Being, we sometimes return lost items and generally cause little 'beach' issues. Why should we pay when other beach activities such as fishing, surfing, kite flying, bait digging, shell hunting, dog walking, beachcombing, etc do not have to pay for their hobby and have arguably far more of a negative environmental and social impact.

Then however I consider what I get out of a trip to the beach with the wind blowing, waves crashing, the solitude and the chance of a decent find. I think I would quite happily pay to be able to continue to do this.

In realistic terms even if a beach wide licence is brought in, it would never be enforced. Who would enforce it? How would they enforce it? Would it be a civil or a criminal offence? When did you last see a police officer on the beach?

Interesting debate. Lets hear a few more opinions.

Cheers
Neil

Hi Neil

I'm in the same boat as you in terms of paying for something I truly enjoy ,if the theoretical beach detecting  licence was reasonable then I would probably  go ahead and pay.
However my main grudge against the crown estate(and the Duchy of Cornwall)  is  how they view Metal detectorists as a soft target to make easy bucks and how they would try to make us look like mugs. While other groups  enjoy the total freedom of the beach without paying a cent they target us as a group to make money possibly because they believe we do it for ONLY for   money and reward which is blatantly not wholly true.In fact It is very rare to find anything of value and its all about a simple hobby that involves outdoor exercise ,socializing and developing interests in history.
I also object tot the possible way in which they may have duped the metal detecting fraternity by insisting on free beach  permits just to explore the potential market for making money .Only time will tell if we as a group have been truly snared in a trap set by men in grey suits who see us as easy prey to make money from.
As I say I hope I am wrong about a beach detecting licence for crown estate beaches but looking at whats happened to London's mudlarkers I believe there's something bad blowing in the wind !!!

                 Perhaps, just maybe, they are somehow cutting costs on administration. But I do wonder if they will get round to licensing detectors, or detectorists, when they bring in new regulations and licenses for the hobby and sport of air-gun shooting.

                 Maybe it's like politics and they leek information just to see what response they get. Big outcry and they say it was just an idea they were looking at; end of story. No outcry and wham bam thank you man, they hit us with it!

                 Or are we just giving them ideas. It will all go away when we form the "Republic"! Wont it?  :-\

Hey Chris....The PUB bit of republic sounds good .... LOL ;D....How ya doin mate ?

Ah ha; so that's why I always get "barred" when I mention re-pub-lic!  :o

Hey Chris yea ,ya certainly got a "P(o)int  there...😁

finding a modern, valuable,   gold ring on the beach...should you hand it to the police within 21 days for eventual crown evaluation?????

Many jurisdictions have statutes that modify the common law's treatment of lost or abandoned property. Typically, these statutes require lost personal property to be turned over to a government official, and that if the property is not claimed within a set period of time, it goes to the finder and the original owner's rights to the property are terminated.

Crown Estates said that they had no interest in jewellery finds that I reported to them and advised me to hand them in to the nearest police station to where  found them.