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Title: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 02, 2011, 06:37:16 PM
Hi Peter

you'll like this challenge .. found this on a remote hilltop close to a major civil war battlefield area.

what is it, where is it from, whats the date and iou 2 beers if u can work it out!

i haven't got a clue apart from its arabic.

cheers

alan


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: Stred (Steve) on April 02, 2011, 06:39:21 PM
Seen the title and thought there was going to be a Monty Python sketch ;D

Nice find by the way.


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: geordiefred on April 02, 2011, 06:44:10 PM
Cracking coin whatever it is, well found  ;)


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on April 02, 2011, 06:49:33 PM
I think its Ottomen Alan,


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: Roman (Ray) on April 02, 2011, 06:52:00 PM
thats a beaut handyman hope the doc can tell you more about mate.welldone lovely find alan.again welldone done.
ray.


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: The Doc on April 02, 2011, 07:16:10 PM
Nice find, very unusual. It's definitely Ottoman (Turkish) and early 19th century. Do you have a size and weight for it Alan?


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 02, 2011, 07:18:07 PM
diameter 38mm

dont have a set of scales to hand ... will borrow my mates tomorrow!!!!


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: The Doc on April 02, 2011, 07:46:14 PM
Thanks for that Alan. I believe it's a 9th issue 5 Kurush coin, also called a 5 piastres, also called a 200 paras, of Mahmud II (1808-39) of Turkey. The Arabic date on the coin translates to 1833. According to my reference, struck in very debased silver (0.17 fine). The weight should be between 13 and 16 grams.


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 02, 2011, 07:48:18 PM
peter -- you are absolutely brilliant ... what a star!

2 beers coming your way next wk.

cheers


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: The Doc on April 02, 2011, 07:49:41 PM
Cheers Alan  :)


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: waltonbasinman on April 02, 2011, 07:57:12 PM
Nice ID Peter and well winkled Alan. Next question Alan. How the heck did that find its way into your field.  :-\


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 02, 2011, 08:50:19 PM
Kurush? Kurush?....... Infidel :D  It's Qirsh. I make the date 1828 and the coin was minted in Egypt. At 39mm it would be a 20 Qirsh.
And I haven't got a book lol


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 02, 2011, 08:53:02 PM
is this close??
http://www.ma-shops.co.uk/hardelt/item.php5?id=9119&lang=en (http://www.ma-shops.co.uk/hardelt/item.php5?id=9119&lang=en)


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 02, 2011, 09:02:07 PM
Alan they are all the same in looks for that period, the difference is the size.
2=18mm
5=25mm
10=32mm
20=39mm

OK....I had to look that bit up lol


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: The Doc on April 02, 2011, 09:04:12 PM
Definitely Turkish. Here's another similar on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Turkey-Turkei-Ottoman-Islamic-5-Piastres-1223-AH-Y-25-/220760242441?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336655f909 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Turkey-Turkei-Ottoman-Islamic-5-Piastres-1223-AH-Y-25-/220760242441?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336655f909)


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 02, 2011, 09:05:56 PM
Hi Geoff/Peter

thank you both for taking time to resolve this ID. it is much appreciated indeed,

quite an unique find here in central england.

cheers


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 02, 2011, 09:16:46 PM
OK OK I take it back lol I cant tell my "Egupt" from my Konstantiniye. That will teach me for trying to show off, I'll have to buy a book :-[


Title: Re: ..and now for something completely different
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 02, 2011, 09:19:37 PM
Strangely Sandpiper had one a few weeks ago from the VOG.


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