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Title: TOY CAR
Post by: Roman (Ray) on December 30, 2009, 06:30:55 PM
HI EVERYONE.
I FOUND THIS CAR A FEW YEARS BACK WHEN I FIRST STARTED DETECTING.
I ALLWAYS WANTED TO KNOW HOW OLD IT IS.
WHATS THE NAME OF THE CAR.IF ITS GOT ONE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE CAR THAT BROKE THE LAND SPEED RECORD
YEARS AGO.ON PENDINE BEECH.FORGOT HIS NAME NOW.
CAN ANY OF YOU FOLKS FILL ME IN ON THIS ARTIFACT
PLEASE.


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: Salty (Karl) Cardiff Scan Club on December 30, 2009, 06:38:22 PM
Donald Cambel Ray, i think they used to have a car like that in the old Monopoly games, made of Zinc i think,what size is it mate?


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: Stig(The) on December 30, 2009, 06:40:01 PM
Nice find Ray.The first person to use Pendine Sands for a world land speed record attempt was Malcolm Campbell. On September 25, 1924 he set a world land speed record of 146.16 mph (235.22 km/h) on Pendine Sands in his car Bluebird.


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: Roman (Ray) on December 30, 2009, 06:42:49 PM
HI BOYS.
ITS 2 AND A HALF INCH LONG


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 30, 2009, 06:53:18 PM
i think your car is on the lines of this one mate


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: Salty (Karl) Cardiff Scan Club on December 30, 2009, 06:58:11 PM
Nice find Ray.The first person to use Pendine Sands for a world land speed record attempt was Malcolm Campbell. On September 25, 1924 he set a world land speed record of 146.16 mph (235.22 km/h) on Pendine Sands in his car Bluebird.

That was it Malcom, Lol, where the hell did i get Donald from :-[ :D :)


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: Salty (Karl) Cardiff Scan Club on December 30, 2009, 06:59:11 PM
HI BOYS.
ITS 2 AND A HALF INCH LONG
Ahh , so those rumors are true then Ray :D ;)


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 30, 2009, 07:00:18 PM
sorry mate that car was a bluebird  ::) posted the wrong one


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 30, 2009, 07:06:34 PM
theres so many types of blue bird cars and i do think yours is one  ;)


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: Roman (Ray) on December 30, 2009, 07:16:11 PM
yes karl the rumours are right ive got a small one mate.

phil some lovely cars butty.cant foult you. cracking.


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: Richy on December 30, 2009, 08:36:36 PM
I'm not sure it is Bluebird which was painted.........(wait for it)....................Blue. :o :o

Ray's car is painted British Racing Green so it would probably be a model racing car from the 30's or 40's.


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: beachboy (viv) on December 30, 2009, 08:40:41 PM
do any of you think it could be babs the car that was buried on pendine sands


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: Legacy Hunter on December 30, 2009, 09:22:17 PM
Malcolm campbell is the father and donald campbell was the son they both held the land speed records

Malcolm  broke the LSR for the first time in 1924 at 146.16 mph (235.22 km/h) at Pendine Sands near Carmarthen Bay in a 350HP V12 Sunbeam. Malcolm broke nine land speed records between 1924 and 1935, with three at Pendine Sands and five at Daytona Beach. His first two records were driving a racing car manufactured by the Sunbeam Car Company in Wolverhampton.
He set his final land speed record at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah on 3 September 1935, and was the first person to drive an automobile over 300 miles per hour (301.337 mph (484.955 km/h)).
He also set the water speed record four times. His highest speed was 141.740 mph (228.108 km/h) in the Bluebird K4. He set the record on 19 August 1939 on Coniston Water in Great Britain.

Donald Campbell began his speed record attempts using his father's old boat Bluebird K4, but after a structural failure at 170 mph (270 km/h) on Coniston Water, Lancashire in 1951 he developed a new boat. Designed by Ken and Lew Norris, the Bluebird K7 was an all-metal jet-propelled 3-point hydroplane with a Metropolitan-Vickers Beryl jet engine producing 3500 lbf (16 kN) of thrust.
Campbell set seven world water speed records in K7 between 1955 and 1964. The first was at Ullswater on 23 July 1955, where he set a record of 202.15 mph (324 km/h). The series of speed increases—216 mph (348 km/h) later in 1955, 225 mph (362 km/h) in 1956, 239 mph (385 km/h) in 1957, 248 mph (399 km/h) in 1958, 260 mph (420 km/h) in 1959—peaked on 31 December 1964 at Dumbleyung Lake, Western Australia when he reached 276.33 mph (444.71 km/h); he remains the world's most prolific breaker of water speed records.
On 4 January 1967, Campbell was killed when Bluebird K7 flipped and disintegrated at a speed in excess of 300 mph (480 km/h).[5] Bluebird had completed a perfect north-south run at an average of 297.6 mph (478.9 km/h), and Campbell used a new water brake to slow K7 from her peak speed of 315 mph (507 km/h). Instead of refueling and waiting for the wash of this run to subside, as had been pre-arranged, Campbell decided to make the return run immediately. The second run was even faster; as K7 passed the start of the measured kilometre, it was travelling at over 320 mph (510 km/h). However the craft's stability had begun to break down as it travelled over the rough water, and the boat started tramping from sponson to sponson. 150 yards (140 m) from the end of the measured mile, Bluebird lifted from the surface and took off at a 45-degree angle. It somersaulted and plunged back into the lake, nose first. The boat then cartwheeled across the water before coming to rest. The impact broke Bluebird forward of the air intakes (where Donald was sitting) and the main hull sank shortly afterwards. Campbell had been killed instantly.
Campbell's last words on his final run were, via radio intercom:
Pitching a bit down here...Probably from my own wash...Straightening up now on track...Rather close to Peel Island...Tramping like mad...er... Full power...Tramping like hell here... I can't see much... and the water's very bad indeed...I can't get over the top... I'm getting a lot of bloody row in here... I can't see anything... I'm going.... oh![6]
The cause of the crash has been variously attributed to Campbell not waiting to refuel after doing a first run of 297.6 mph (478.9 km/h), and hence the boat being lighter; the wash caused by his first run and made much worse by the use of the water brake; and, possibly, a cut-out of the jet engine caused by fuel starvation. Some evidence for this last possibility may be seen in film recordings of the crash - as the nose of the boat climbs and the jet exhaust points at the water surface no disturbance or spray can be seen at all. Mr Whoppit, Campbell's teddy bear mascot, was found among the floating debris. Royal Navy divers made strenuous efforts to find and recover Campbell's body but, although the wreck of K7 was soon found, they called off the search without locating his body.
On 28 January 1967 Campbell was posthumously awarded the Queen's Commendation for Brave Conduct For courage and determination in attacking the world water speed record
debs


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: SimonH on December 30, 2009, 10:03:53 PM
Its similar to this one



Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: PHIL YNYSBOETH on December 30, 2009, 10:19:41 PM
Ray are you talking about Parry Thomas,s Car Babs ?

Yours looks very similar


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: PHIL YNYSBOETH on December 30, 2009, 10:22:22 PM
pic


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: bymatt666 (byron) on December 30, 2009, 10:24:39 PM
i think it's just a toy of the 30's ray......BABS is my all time fav car..... ;D...i've posted a pic of her for comparison........byron


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: SimonH on December 30, 2009, 10:26:39 PM
Oops forgot description of the pic I posted.

Dinky Toy model racing car. Three and a half inches in length. Circa mid-1930's


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: PHIL YNYSBOETH on December 30, 2009, 10:29:12 PM
lol Sorry Byron Mate beat you to it

ive only heard of it coz its your favourite car lol


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: Roman (Ray) on December 30, 2009, 10:35:20 PM
thanks folks.
thank you everyone for the pictures.
some cracking old cars there.
cheers.
ray.


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: Salty (Karl) Cardiff Scan Club on December 30, 2009, 10:46:51 PM
Ah ha, so there was a Donald, i'm not as potty as i thought i was!

Ray, just so everyone knows, where on about your pinpointer when we talk about you having a 2 + 1/2" little one ;) :)


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: bymatt666 (byron) on December 30, 2009, 10:49:29 PM
no problem phil.... ;)...you know me and fast cars..... ;D....how about this one......the fastest car in the world.......goes like hell ...but cant take corners !.... ;D....byron


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: PHIL YNYSBOETH on December 30, 2009, 10:54:43 PM
Great stuff Byron but where would Des and the detectors go ????lolol


Title: Re: TOY CAR
Post by: Legacy Hunter on December 30, 2009, 10:56:18 PM
yes karl you are not potty there was a donald
debs


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