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Title: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: Moncó on January 19, 2014, 04:40:55 PM
Hi ladies & gents
I currently have a Whites pulse induction Dual field detector for the beach / surf

But was looking to buy a Pulse Induction that works both on the beach / surf as well as inland ( don´t want Minelab / multi frequency detectors don´t pick up gold chains ) but want extreme depth inland.
I was thinking of a Garrett infinium, do any of you lads / ladies know if it is any good or not, or an alternative detector, maybe an older Fisher ? ? ?

Possibly the CZ 21.



Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: probono on January 19, 2014, 05:26:15 PM
i thought that PIs drive you mad if you use them inland!

I tried one once and it was pinging all the time (a Whites PI)


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: StumbledUpon on January 19, 2014, 05:43:08 PM
The fisher CZ21 is a dual frequency machine, 5 -15khzs


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: dances with badgers on January 19, 2014, 07:26:09 PM
your wrong monco minelabs do pick up chains ,i have had a few with my etrac and my sovereign.pulse machines will get the thiner chains though better than the vlfs .


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: celticspikey on January 19, 2014, 08:14:22 PM
Hi ladies & gents
I currently have a Whites pulse induction Dual field detector for the beach / surf

But was looking to buy a Pulse Induction that works both on the beach / surf as well as inland ( don´t want Minelab / multi frequency detectors don´t pick up gold chains ) but want extreme depth inland.
I was thinking of a Garrett infinium, do any of you lads / ladies know if it is any good or not, or an alternative detector, maybe an older Fisher ? ? ?

Possibly the CZ 21.


I agree with badger, it also depends whether or not the chain is lying flat out or in a ball,my Excalibur had no problem picking up chains in the surf, mite get one again and get back in the water on south coast this summer, I miss it  ;) ;)


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: Moncó on January 19, 2014, 08:18:54 PM
Take a look at the gold chain and the multifrequency doesn´t pick it up, I have done this test myself with an Explorer and Safari and they simply don´t pick up gold chains, ( 50 seconds )



Undisturbed Dirt Depth Test -- Minelab, Garrett, Fisher, DeepTech in the Test Trench (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elpZY99S6I0#ws)

The Multifrequency machines have difficulty picking up gold chains..


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: dances with badgers on January 19, 2014, 08:47:03 PM
depends on the size and the way that the chain is lying ,if its all bunched up you dont get a problem.try testing in wet sand


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 19, 2014, 10:11:09 PM
It doesn't matter if it's bunched up but it does depend on the thickness of the chain, you're right Monco in that FBS machines are blind to medium/thin chains, a metal detector doesn't see a chain it sees links ie multiple small signals not one big one. If you're finding chains with FBS then you're probably detecting catches or pendants ;)


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: Moncó on January 19, 2014, 10:19:54 PM
It doesn't matter if it's bunched up but it does depend on the thickness of the chain, you're right Monco in that FBS machines are blind to medium/thin chains, a metal detector doesn't see a chain it sees links ie multiple small signals not one big one. If you're finding chains with FBS then you're probably detecting catches or pendants ;)

Thanks Chef Geoff..

I may just keep the Whites PI for the beach and then buy a 2nd Hand PI for inland..it will take a little more research though.. but I am open to suggestions..


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: dances with badgers on January 20, 2014, 07:17:34 PM
i find chains lol :D.not many but i do


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: Moncó on January 20, 2014, 07:30:32 PM
I don´t want to start a detector war or say that any detector a colleague may have is or isn´t any good.
I have a T 2 Special edition a G 2 a Whiotes pulse induction dual field, I had a Minelab X terra 505 ace 150 / 250 and Euroace

But before I spend any more money on a detector I want to make sure I but the right tool.

I might scrub my initial question and just go for an Inland Pulse Induction

Any suggestions ? ? ?


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: keepmateethinajar on January 20, 2014, 10:55:24 PM
 ::) ::) ::)...I had a garrett infinium....load of rubbish....heavy...shaft would bend when you held it up....signal was 2 beeps...awfull machine.....sold it to a man with a white stick..... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: Moncó on January 21, 2014, 01:00:32 AM
::) ::) ::)...I had a garrett infinium....load of rubbish....heavy...shaft would bend when you held it up....signal was 2 beeps...awfull machine.....sold it to a man with a white stick..... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

After starting this topic I have done some research, and I was suprised by some detectorists complaining about the Infinium, aparently not one of the best... .. ...



Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: dances with badgers on January 21, 2014, 08:38:00 AM
theres plenty of good pulse machines out there monco,try findmall treasure forums.the americans love a pulse machine.speak to some american pulse users before you buy one


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: Moncó on January 21, 2014, 09:53:38 AM
theres plenty of good pulse machines out there monco,try findmall treasure forums.the americans love a pulse machine.speak to some american pulse users before you buy one

Thanks dances with badges...
Makes a lot of sense..


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: dances with badgers on January 21, 2014, 09:12:15 PM
good luck mate


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: Moncó on January 22, 2014, 09:55:37 AM
Thanks..

Theres allways the ATX, but it is too recent and expensive..  :-\


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: dances with badgers on January 22, 2014, 10:17:30 PM
i would wait to see what happens with the new garret,i have not heard much about it yet.im waiting to see how they operate on the beaches and some finds


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: Moncó on January 23, 2014, 08:59:27 AM
Hi Dances with wolves
I have became a member of an American site as you suggested, make sense....

As for the ATX I agree entirely, too recent to know if it is any good or not and too expensive. I would prefer an older 2nd Hand machnie in order to not be over commited to a machine which I would only use very rarely..

I have time, I will keep the questions firing and the research going...

Thanks all for the replies..


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: StumbledUpon on January 23, 2014, 12:13:27 PM
You could have a look at the Whites TDI, claims to have some discrimination, or the old cs6pi, good cheap machine


Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: Moncó on January 23, 2014, 12:26:56 PM
The CScope is an option..  :)



Title: Re: Pulse induction beach & Inland
Post by: dances with badgers on January 24, 2014, 04:06:07 PM
the cscope is a good option,im going for an eric foster beachscan when i have saved up some cash.
 if you can find a deepstar 3 they are awsome,i saw my cousins get a coin at 26'' on the beach last week and a 1 gram thin childs gold ring at 15''.
they are hard to come by but they are mad machines


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