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Title: Seal matrix .......
Post by: Mrmayo on November 04, 2013, 09:42:27 AM
Found this on the charity dig yesterday and at first I thought it was just a fob matrix but looking on the database it looks like it could be Roman!!! It matches one that is on there almost identical except mine is complete would be very gratefull if someone could confirm this,

Also would like to thank the organisers for one of the best digs I've attended in a long time and with great company and all for a great charity,  THANKYOU!!!


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 04, 2013, 09:56:56 AM
Nice find especially as it's whole, unfortunately these fit into two time periods...Roman and Post Medieval with very little difference between the two. Does the matrix survive? as it could come down to that. :-\


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: Mrmayo on November 04, 2013, 10:00:39 AM
Yes Geoff  the matrix is there but can't make it out needs close look  will prob hand it in to flo on next meet.


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: Dryland on November 04, 2013, 01:13:30 PM
Well done again , It was great to see that in the flesh yesterday,


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: The Doc on November 04, 2013, 06:52:17 PM
Sorry Ceri - I am of the opinion that this is not Roman, and I am dubious of those ID'd as Roman on PAS to be honest.

I would say post-medieval, late 16th to 17th century. Can you get a better pic of the design of the matrix please?

Still a very nice find though  :)

This is the nearest I can find:

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=7076&cat=115 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=7076&cat=115)


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: Mrmayo on November 04, 2013, 07:10:44 PM
Well I don't think you can get any closer with that match doc thanks and it doesn't matter anyway I'm chuffed with it and it's one off my tick list  ;D ;)


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: Mrmayo on November 04, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
Ok on closer inspection the matrix looks quite rude......... Well I will let the experts decide  :-[ here is some closer pics sorry they not very good taken with iPad.


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: nobby on November 04, 2013, 07:52:59 PM
That bottom one looks like a kilroy ;D


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: handyman [Alan} on November 04, 2013, 07:54:37 PM
lol nobby, and there's me thinking it looked like a phallic symbol!  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: celticspikey on November 04, 2013, 07:57:19 PM
Found this on the charity dig yesterday and at first I thought it was just a fob matrix but looking on the database it looks like it could be Roman!!! It matches one that is on there almost identical except mine is complete would be very gratefull if someone could confirm this,

Also would like to thank the organisers for one of the best digs I've attended in a long time and with great company and all for a great charity,  THANKYOU!!!
I'm with the Doc on this, lovely find thou  ;) ;)


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: Dale on November 05, 2013, 06:46:12 PM
Great find Mrmayo I love the seals !! Have you took a wax impression yet? I found the best thing to use was a dark colour play-doh..... but if using blue tac go carefull I took the patina face straight off one before :'(
Here is one I found in the past with the same sort of handle as yours :)   


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 05, 2013, 06:51:04 PM
Dip it in talcum powder first and blow off the excess, this prevents whatever your using from sticking ;)


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: Dale on November 05, 2013, 06:53:12 PM
Dip it in talcum powder first and blow off the excess, this prevents whatever your using from sticking ;)

To late now Geoff  :D but a very good tip for next time !


Title: Re: Seal matrix .......
Post by: Mrmayo on November 05, 2013, 07:39:41 PM
thanks for the tips lads but i have done a stamp with blue tac and it is still hard to id it could be a phallic symbol :-[ or maybe a building with a large tower  ???


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