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Title: Two little mongrels
Post by: Techony on April 05, 2012, 05:27:14 PM
Out today to see if the rain had improved the signals on the drying stubble. Still pretty quiet but these two little mongrels showed their faces even though they tried to confuse the Deus by cloaking the signals.

I'm a bit confused by the James Groat though. James I of England was after all James VI of Scotland and here we are with an Irish Groat! I say groat because it's smaller than the English Sixpence and larger than the English Halfgroat, can't find a picture of the full groat to compare to though.

As for the Henry, he's always been on my wishlist, and here he is coming up bent by 90 degrees with a very corroded crease, very worn and very dirty, ...bad lad. It wasn't very happy being annealed, but at least I finally  managed to get him into a reasonable enough state to take his picture without him snapping into two ;D


Title: Re: Two little mongrels
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 05, 2012, 05:54:13 PM
nice finds again, ... i'm gonna miss u on them fields tomorrow!  ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Two little mongrels
Post by: Neil on April 05, 2012, 06:02:33 PM
Nice pair Techony - 'back of the net' mate!


Title: Re: Two little mongrels
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 05, 2012, 06:05:22 PM
Hi Tony and well done on the finds, Now I'm a little confused at your confusion lol
It's a Sixpence.......the way to tell on Irish coins is the legend. On your coin it states Scotland, this means it is from the first coinage and the only Irish coins under James were Sixpences and Shillings. The later coinage recognised the union of the two kingdoms and just has Great Britain on them.
They were both only 75% of the weight of the English equivalent.


Title: Re: Two little mongrels
Post by: roger g on April 05, 2012, 06:17:27 PM
Nice couple of hammereds m8y well done  ;D


Title: Re: Two little mongrels
Post by: Techony on April 05, 2012, 06:24:45 PM
Hi Tony and well done on the finds, Now I'm a little confused at your confusion lol
It's a Sixpence.......the way to tell on Irish coins is the legend. On your coin it states Scotland, this means it is from the first coinage and the only Irish coins under James were Sixpences and Shillings. The later coinage recognised the union of the two kingdoms and just has Great Britain on them.
They were both only 75% of the weight of the English equivalent.

Ahah, that explains it all, Thanks Geoff. I should've known that the Irish Scottish Sixpence was only 4 1/2 pence worth  ;D ;D

Judging by the duckmark, I make it a 1604 version then ???


Title: Re: Two little mongrels
Post by: DEADLOCK on April 05, 2012, 06:55:48 PM
ive got a james first half groat would love a full groat well found.


Title: Re: Two little mongrels
Post by: WeCan-Octavian on April 06, 2012, 06:27:12 AM
I just want a HAMMY, FULL STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL well done mate


Title: Re: Two little mongrels
Post by: daimole on April 06, 2012, 08:42:04 PM
Well found  ;) a drop of rain does help !!


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