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Hi Everyone, I found this many years ago but never really bothered with it as it was badly clipped and worn, but the more I look at this coin the more I want to know what it is. From what I can gather this is either Richard II, Henry IV or V or Edward IV and was minted in York. It appears that other examples I try and lookup (50% or more) tend to be either worn, clipped or just really poor strikes. Even Spinks examples are poor, so did they come from the mint looking like that? I am also not sure if it is a penny or higher since if you look at the bust side it is almost totally clipped around in the inner circle yet somehow on the reverse side has managed to retain some writing? IE am I right in saying the inner circle of the obverse should be more or less the same size as the inner cirlce reverse? Also this coin I am covinced has another mark which I can't quite see mentioned in Spink but can see something similar mentioned under Richard II in North - vol 2 page 63 no 1329e which mentions a mark after [CIVI]TAS which this coin I am sure has but is not a Sun or an Excallop as mentioned at the bottom of the page. I am convinced there is just enough to ID this coin even without an obverse legend. Thanks in advance, Jon.

You could be right with your ID as Richard II Jon.

This is the coin illustrated in the BNJ as referred to in the footnote in North. (c) The British Numismatic Society 1980

Hard to be certain if the mark on your coin is  identical.

Looking at the obverse I don't think the flan was very well prepared before striking, the coin seems to have blobs of silver.......... As the Doc said its hard to be certain what the mark is ( a flaw??) Nice find tho, and well spotted :)