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Title: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: DEADLOCK on December 09, 2013, 06:33:46 PM
This is my first hammered with my new machine it was bent in half so not muxh to go on. And then i made the mistake of letting radnor bandit have ago with it only for him to find a seal matrix with it. But it was his land also hammy number 20. Its 20mm in size


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on December 09, 2013, 07:27:25 PM
Its definitely hammered  :)


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: DEADLOCK on December 09, 2013, 07:39:03 PM
I think its beat the doc  ;D. I thought a man of your calibre and statue of the community would of known what hammered it is tafflaff.   :o


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: Dryland on December 09, 2013, 07:44:35 PM
Yep it's definitely what Doc will say it is


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: The Doc on December 09, 2013, 07:47:27 PM
You might not want to hear this, but I think this is a Norman coin, most likely Stephen.


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: Dale on December 09, 2013, 07:51:10 PM
You might not want to hear this, but I think this is a Norman coin, most likely Stephen.

Ha ha I was going to put something the same.

Looking at the first pic at 4 o'clock to 5 o'clock there is a little legend and going by that id say Charles half groat


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: Chef Geoff on December 09, 2013, 08:10:43 PM
You might not want to hear this, but I think this is a Norman coin, most likely Stephen.
Ouch!!!!!!


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: The Doc on December 09, 2013, 08:20:12 PM
You might not want to hear this, but I think this is a Norman coin, most likely Stephen.

Ha ha I was going to put something the same.

Looking at the first pic at 4 o'clock to 5 o'clock there is a little legend and going by that id say Charles half groat

That wasn't a joke -  I was being serious, but may be totally wrong. I'll explain in a couple of minutes.


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: DEADLOCK on December 09, 2013, 08:25:25 PM
Seriously jeezzz


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: The Doc on December 09, 2013, 08:39:22 PM
Have a look at this coin on UKDFD and then look at the area I have circled on your coin.

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=36930&cat=29 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=36930&cat=29)

I think this may be the top of the sceptre.

Now I may be making picture out of clouds, but...

Also, the wording on the other side is not that unlike some of the Stephen coins. Look at the reverse of this one:

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=36599&cat=29 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=36599&cat=29)

If yours is something similar, then it seems to be more poorly struck than usual, even though these are often very badly struck.

What does anyone else think?



Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: DEADLOCK on December 09, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
I shall bring it to rally Sunday doc if your can make it, shall I give it a bit of foil treatment


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: probono on December 09, 2013, 08:41:59 PM
Having seen what you've posted (Doc) - it's quite possible - it's on a mis-shapen flan so definitely not a well made issue - so either Stephen or perhaps a Tealby type


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: The Doc on December 09, 2013, 08:47:24 PM
Having seen what you've posted (Doc) - it's quite possible - it's on a mis-shapen flan so definitely not a well made issue - so either Stephen or perhaps a Tealby type


Arrrrgh - one reign out - I think you've got it - Henry II Tealby

What I thought was the sceptre is part of the crown - the sceptre's on the other side. Like this one:

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=31452&cat=30 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=31452&cat=30)



Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: Chef Geoff on December 09, 2013, 08:56:01 PM
oh well Radnor Bandit's yo da man ;)
Ian said he thought it was a Tealby when it came out of the ground.


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: Dale on December 09, 2013, 09:06:44 PM
Well done Peter !! great work there, you look to be spot on with your id ;)
il delete my first thoughts now :D I think you better check Alans coin now ::) LOL


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: Dale on December 09, 2013, 09:17:33 PM
Poor condition or not deadlock that is a great find.


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: DEADLOCK on December 09, 2013, 09:23:12 PM
Thank you for id doc and probono


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: The Doc on December 09, 2013, 09:33:59 PM
Well done Peter !! great work there, you look to be spot on with your id ;)
il delete my first thoughts now :D I think you better check Alans coin now ::) LOL

Roland (probono) dserves the credit for getting to Tealby, not me!

...and I think you're spot on with Alan's  :)


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: Radnor Bandit (Ian) on December 09, 2013, 10:20:55 PM
Yes great afternoon out Al heres the lead vessica  matrix I found with your NEW machine  ;D


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: Radnor Bandit (Ian) on December 09, 2013, 10:24:46 PM
and flipped


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on December 09, 2013, 10:53:14 PM
Pete , Roland - yours is a powerful magic. If you were around when that coin was made you'd have been burnt at the stake  :)


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: Dryland on December 09, 2013, 11:03:32 PM
Well found Ian, but did you really have to rub it in ;D ;D


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: probono on December 10, 2013, 09:33:49 AM
Pete , Roland - yours is a powerful magic. If you were around when that coin was made you'd have been burnt at the stake  :)

Well to be honest - Pete got most of the way there, I just tagged along on the end :)

Now if someone manages to work out what mint it is - that would be magic!


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: probono on December 10, 2013, 09:40:40 AM
Um, well I thought I'd have a go.

you can see the letter 'O' or D followed by a ':' (colon), which would be the start of 'ON' , and then i think the next letters are PINC, but I could be wrong - so my guess (currently) is RICARD ON PINC (Winchester).


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: nobby on December 10, 2013, 09:59:29 AM
Lol ;D
I also can do a little magic!
Probono I predict for Christmas youre getting some sort of outer garment..... Yep coming through clearly now.... Its an anorak :D


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: Da Monkey on December 10, 2013, 10:03:49 AM
Now if someone manages to work out what mint it is - that would be magic!

Aww, c'mon, thats the easiest bit, even I can ID the Mint  ::)

There's one obvious detail you've missed, its got a massive hole in the middle, it's got to the POLO...


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: the-BANGOR-citizan on December 10, 2013, 11:22:28 AM
Lol ;D
I also can do a little magic!
Probono I predict for Christmas youre getting some sort of outer garment..... Yep coming through clearly now.... Its an anorak :D


 
:D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: probono on December 10, 2013, 01:21:14 PM
Lol ;D
I also can do a little magic!
Probono I predict for Christmas youre getting some sort of outer garment..... Yep coming through clearly now.... Its an anorak :D


You mean a second one :)



Title: Re: Any id on a really battered hammered
Post by: probono on December 10, 2013, 01:22:06 PM
Now if someone manages to work out what mint it is - that would be magic!

Aww, c'mon, thats the easiest bit, even I can ID the Mint  ::)

There's one obvious detail you've missed, its got a massive hole in the middle, it's got to the POLO...

Excellent :)


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