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« on: August 30, 2009, 08:19:11 PM »
This was found by myself a few years ago on a predominately roman site...

I thought it was a Georgian rein guide but an respected roman historian is convinced

it is the handle of a roman implement....mirror/knife etc.

35mm long and 25 mm wide bronze with remains of an iron tang at the base.

the decorations appear to be punched into the object your views please.PaulB.
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2009, 09:00:54 PM »
This is easier to see Paul. Not seen anything like this elsewhere.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2009, 09:20:40 PM »
i remember seeing some thing like that on the handle of a short sword in one of the club mags
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 09:22:39 PM »
Could it be the very end piece of a Roman Pugio dagger handle ?
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 09:32:00 PM »
Could be middle eastern in origin Huh the crescent moon emblem Huh nice find though  Wink Paul bud
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2009, 10:11:55 PM »
keep the ideas coming as this has split the pundits big time...if it is a roman lets say knife handle then a very scarce find indeed...cheers guys PaulB.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2009, 11:06:55 PM »
Here you are Paul - I knew I had seen something similar in one of my reference books. I know its not the same but style wise there are certainly similarities. Its from Mills' Celtic & Roman Artefacts.

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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2009, 06:49:36 AM »
Extremely Nice find Paul Grin.......Dave
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2009, 10:11:24 AM »
Think iv'e seen this one before  Grin
I still think that it has religious connotations and is a mount, (ergonomically and functionally it doesn't make sense as a handle to anything).
I think it is the symbol of Artemis (crescent moon outer , full moon inner and is the right way up in the picture) and it's only purpose is to show that (whatever it was mounted on ) they worshipped and had the protection of that goddess.
We may never know !  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2009, 12:14:47 PM »
it does'nt seem to have any wear on the inside which you would get if a rope or guide was running through it, i cannot judge the size of the object from the picture but the end of a ritual staff or a sword pommel are my suggestions.
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2009, 02:11:52 PM »
Hi 1 morecoin...its 35mm tall and 25mm wide....PaulB. Cool
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2009, 04:04:16 PM »
i havent got a clue but its a nice find
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2009, 05:50:46 PM »
Found these on google, makes me think more on it being a pommel.
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2009, 05:52:28 PM »
another.
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2009, 06:01:23 PM »
Here is another, although this is reversed I have noticed that many swords were made for individuals as one off's with many weird and wonderfull pommel designs.

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