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anyone used a Nokta golden sense ? It is a new detector supplied in the UK by evergreens, the videos are impressive, but they are videos ! would be interested to hear about it from a genuine user

Blimey, don't you sleep.?

Guess no has heard of them. :-\

Val

I am working nights this week, but generally I do not sleep much I get about 5 hours a day. I finish at 6 get up around midday and work on a house I am renovating until 6pm then I have something to eat ,watch TV for a hour or 2 then I do it all again :)

Interesting in the golden sense as it is 17.5khz and seems to be a deep seeking machine

http://www.noktadetectors.com/videos.asp?vd=dedektor&kat=sense&vid=138 (http://www.noktadetectors.com/videos.asp?vd=dedektor&kat=sense&vid=138)

hi yes ive just put a post on asking about these machines to .whos going to bite the bullet and buy one lol

I once owned one. Cost a lot if money and not worth it. It was very heavy to swing, plus you got to carry a mini computer. It doesn't find items like you think, or hope it does. Yes it will identify a metal object, just like any other detector. It has a guess at it's shape, but not accurate.
I had mine for 6 months and found it near impossible to sell.  In the end, I managed to sell it to a guy in Hungry, at a loss of £1000.
My advice, stay well away from nokta.

if it seems to good to be true it generally is >:(

how did you lose £1000 when they are only £700 new

I think he's referring to the Nokta Golden King ;)

Ye i thought that wrong detector.the golden sense does look good i might take a trip to evergreens for a nosey  ;)

Lol, Sorry I was referring to to the golden king, a total waste of money.  ;D

Thought u were med man lol

I popped to evergreen the other day and Steve showed me one of those not the golden king it was really  heavy and not balanced . I would say heavier than an etrac with a big coil and that was without the control box on I think that is hip mounted ? Good luck ;)

Well the video that was posted on the other thread shows very sandy soil (or just sand) which has a lower mineralisation from "normal" inland soil, also the target being a loop shape will give a very good signal, so it is very loaded in showing the machine in a good light as you would expect.
Will it go deeper than any other motion machine?........"NO" not unless you're prepared to run it hot.

another one of these so called extreme depth detectors. a friend of mine who bought one recently took it to the beach and it managed to get a couple of inches on the wet sand.it has now has been sold on.   

Yes i noticed the soil was very sandy to chef i was started to have my doubt about .it

I know I've said it before but there will "never ever" be a machine that will detect the small to medium hammered coins that we long to find at depth. Not that is, until a totally new detection system is developed.
The problem is that VLF motion machines are not able to "slice" detect, by that I mean it can't see an horizon 1 inch wide, 6 inches down, it sees the whole 6 inches and mineralisation is cumulative. So where a target becomes less responsive the deeper it becomes, the soil on the other hand becomes far more responsive the deeper you detect until the two have the same response profile and the target becomes invisible in the surrounding mineralisation.
It's the reason that air testing proves nothing as you've removed the all important camouflage of minerals and so the target becomes dominant.
Had we not been such a lazy lot and minded digging all forms of non-ferrous bits and bobs, it's possible that the research would have gone into T/R machines and we may have been digging deeper than we do today.
So the trick is not to worry about the depth of a machine on low conductors but to get as much sensitivity within the top 8" without giving positive false signals.
When people understand the physics then they'll stop believing the unbelievable and wasting their money on new machines.

Now that uve put it that way chef it makes sense.good write up by the way.

i am very pleased that people think that it is all propaganda  about the golden sense  more deep finds for me

cant wait to see your finds with one lol :D

if none of the big name dealers sell them you can smell a rat ,as they would be first in line for wonderfull new machines that turn a good profit .
try before you buy is a good policy to follow before handing over your dosh

saw a guy at the recent weekend wanderers rally digging a deeeeep hole around 20" diameter and around 20"+ deep , his mate waved the 'wonder machine ' above the hole , sure enough a signal , can i try mate , in goes my xs and ultimate coil to the bottom of the deeeep hole , nothing not even nulling over iron , in goes an etrac , same result , continuing on my button hunt i looked around a few minutes later to see the now very sweaty guy filling in the hole  ::) ::) ::)

if they worked we would all rush out and get one for the beaches,i would have a gold rolls royce and plastic surgery to have my man boobs reduced and an extension on my ............
 house come on not pecker need that reduced not bigger lol. ;)

my mate bought that golden sense at a very good price if the chap had known how to set it up he would never have sold it same detector has hit a small hammed at 14 inc the settings in the book are for where it was made not over here

14 inches on a small hammered  ;D

I've just checked my birth certificate and "no" I wasn't born yesterday lol. In air "ummm maybe...just" But in the soil, I'm afraid whoever has told you that is totally ignorant of the Physics of how metal detectors work. In fact I feel quite insulted that someone expects me to believe that  :-\

no bull it will get that deep no prod

I'm sorry John but it's complete rubbish, as I have said to even suggest it is showing a total ignorance of the technology.
Watch this video of it air testing on a full flanged Eddy penny, which is not exactly small and even here it only gets 15".
AIR TESTING MY NEW NOKTA GOLDEN SENSE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZQSZy8X20w#ws)

And this is the best place to find comparison tests and if you check you'll see that the nokta doesn't score as high as the Explorers, XP's or even the golden mask;
http://www.metalldetektortest.com/nokta.html (http://www.metalldetektortest.com/nokta.html)

ok have it your way i have one and know what it will and wont do all demos are done in factory settings  they do not work over here air  tests well we all now they are rubbish so y not try one and find out for your self and then pass judgement you mite have a shock with the technology bit as well

I wouldn't waste my money John. The technology hasn't changed since the mid 70's when Charles Garrett developed it, it's a dead end technology, bells and whistles you can add and if you don't mind a very noisy machine, you may get a small increase in depth but I'm afraid the laws of physics can't be broken.

enough said  ::) ::) ::)