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Title: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 09, 2009, 03:35:29 PM
Will there ever be a beach detecting rally by detectingwales.com ? Are there organisational problems that arise with the location? Personally I think many members would like to gve it a try one day. Any opinions anyone?


Title: Re: Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: Kev on July 09, 2009, 03:53:39 PM
i agree JONOLA lets get it on, like you Millsy iv never detected on a beach YET ;D ;)


Title: Re: Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: waltonbasinman on July 09, 2009, 03:57:59 PM
Yeah I would support that to Geoff. Be nice to do something different. I would have thought finding a undetected beach would be a problem though.


Title: Re: Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 09, 2009, 06:12:19 PM
Seems like a few people would like to give it a go. Any logistical reasons against it? I know Paul is right and most beaches are detected regularly but tides are a wonderful leveller and whereas on land coins settle deeper until a good ploughing a good tide or storm can throw up stuff just as well. I'm up for it!


Title: Re: Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: mel on July 09, 2009, 07:34:03 PM
Any one know if their detector will work on a beach.


Title: Re: Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 09, 2009, 07:37:56 PM
I have a Minelab Quattro and have read several reports of it being excellent on a beach...so fingers crossed.


Title: Re: Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: zorro on July 09, 2009, 07:46:05 PM
Kev, Allan you guys have never detected on a beach!!!. hey guys you dont know what you've been missing. me and bea chboy went out yesterday. Bea chboy had 41 fishing weights!!!!! amongst other goodies. i had 17 weights and a lovely gold ring with 3 diamonds in......broke in my hand later back home tho ( see "diamond tester" in general disscussions).
anyway plenty of fresh air, sun tan and dip your toes in the briney sea awaits you when you go to to the beaches. you guys gotta try it.
as for not sure if your machine will work properly Mel, almost all machines will be fine on dry sand. wet sand is slightly diifferent tho..what machine have you got?


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 09, 2009, 08:26:10 PM
Just think...sun, sea, sand...fishing weights,rings,lost coins,spanish pieces of eight. Well a bloke can dream!


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: DIGGA on July 09, 2009, 08:28:48 PM
SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA   ;D ;D


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: proconsul on July 09, 2009, 09:42:18 PM
I've no objection to a beach rally but I'll need to look into the legalities. Then we'll need to find a suitable beach.

Geoff


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: Gadget(Ian) on July 09, 2009, 10:18:01 PM
sounds great.what about swansea bay 200 could go there in one day and nobody would bat a eyelid.


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: Stig(The) on July 09, 2009, 10:23:05 PM
I have never tected on a beach either,would love to though,as they say "life`s a beach".


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: PHIL YNYSBOETH on July 09, 2009, 11:07:23 PM
I spent most of my 10 Years Detecting beaches its great fun and easy digging !

This time of year the  best time to detect is on a warm weekend just as the Punters ops sorry People are leaving
you would have to pick a beach as big as Aberavon or Swansea Bay not to upset anyone.

Parts of the Welsh coastline is owned by the CROWN ESTATE you need to Check there website before you plan a Rally.
The crown estate used to Charge £15 per Year per beach for a permit .
The Charge was dropped last year but you still need a permit for the beach you intend to detect on
I havnt head of anyone being Fined and ive never had a permit Just something to be aware of

Fight the Power ! lol

regards
Phil Jones

all the best 


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: Al.Thepastfinder, ( Alan ) on July 10, 2009, 06:17:45 AM
I Find the beach a great change from the land from time to time for modern stuff. much easier than the land for those who haven't done the beaches.

Done a few over here from time to time ,  and in Spain when we went on a club ralley for a week,  lol,

The club usually have a winter one when there is not many people on there,


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: vitallius (Dave) on July 10, 2009, 07:02:23 AM
It sounds good to me, any detecting is good just hope I can make the dates when its decided hope your all well. Regards Dave  ;D


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: U.K. Brian on July 10, 2009, 09:18:00 AM
There's two big problems, even if you have a detector that does work well on the damp and wet sand, and thats the wind/tide and if the weather is good, your buried in people.

Pendine this week had feet of sand on it. Little at the top, less down on the wet and the wind/tide combination had dumped hundreds of balls of iron clag up from beyond the low tide mark. I gave up and moved to Llanstephan.
Feet of sand there as well. The drainage pipe that normally sticks up a few feet out of the sand had almost disappeared.

Port Eynon as was mentioned on here the other day stripped the other year and provided great detecting for a short period then never seemed to get replenished.
Llangennith (of the silver dollar fame) has a ton of rubbish and ferrous at the top and feet of sand down toward the low tide mark for much of the year. I work on the basis that eight or nine out of ten trips there will be a waste of time.

For a beach Rally you really need to be off season and select the day with care as regards tides. The extra low tides at different times of year really help. A spring tide provides the most powerful currents and you have the highest high tide (to hopefully cut into the top of the beach) and the lowest low tide (so you get on to ground that hasn't been done to death and where items from further out have been brought in).

Best beach period is that of the equinoctial spring tide which only happens twice a year around 21st of March and 23rd of September.

Mick of Leisure Promotions had a weeks Rally on Llangennith to try and find the silver dollars twenty years back. Must have been a hundred people there with every type of detector going including pulse with huge coils and the finds were one hammered silver and three rings.

One place to consider would be Benllech/Red Wharf Bay area of Anglesey. Its got plenty of camp sites. A large hoard of hammered silver has been recovered over a few years, there's less used areas of golden sand that never get busy and when the crowds move off Benllech at the end of the day there should be a reasonable amount of modern coins plus a few rings.


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: hedgehog on July 10, 2009, 01:08:15 PM
That's some good advice there Brian and that's a nice haul of the shiny stuff, is that just two months finds?


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: U.K. Brian on July 10, 2009, 04:08:39 PM
Two months mainly South Wales beaches + North Devon. Picture below is another group from over the winter but including the dreaded silver. I average about a hundred a year but its nothing clever, I can go out every day if I want to and hit the beaches as they strip. If your stuck with a few hours at the weekend often the sands back and to much is out of reach.


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: Jonola (Jon) on July 10, 2009, 05:07:42 PM
Well impressed. Looks like a window display from a jewellers! How many fishing weights do you find in that time? And what is your oldest beach coin?


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: U.K. Brian on July 14, 2009, 09:23:55 AM
At least ten fishing weights to a ring if including all rings ie silver and junk.

I've quite a few beach found hammered from the U.K. plus Spanish from the Treasure Fleets from the U.S.
I've had Roman bronze coins off Welsh beaches but the condition is. Well think as bad as you can and double it !

Piture below is U.S. beach coins with a silver "piece of one" top middle and brass coin weight bottom centre.


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: StumbledUpon on July 14, 2009, 11:37:24 AM
Fantastic Brian!  :) 8)


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: daf.vinci on July 14, 2009, 04:56:54 PM
I would be well up for a meet down swansea beach anyday of the week.It would be good to meet some of you guys and pick your brains about detecting.

If anybody fancies it then write your names in this post and we will all be a step closer to arranging a meet? ;D


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: vitallius (Dave) on July 16, 2009, 11:37:33 AM
Hi Dave............. (Hi all ref beach detecting Crown Estate thought you may like to read this helpful mail from Trevor Austin.NCMD.some of you are  probably aware of this but for those who are not worth a read.
 
I noticed your entry on the Detecting Wales forum concerning the Crown Estate beach permit.
 
just to put you in the picture, there is no fee for the permit although the website does say that there is.
This results from meetings the NCMD had with Crown Estate, where we negotiated the removal of the fee, plus changes to the terms and conditions.
See the updates on the NCMD website. http://www.ncmd.co.uk/docs/update2.pdf (http://www.ncmd.co.uk/docs/update2.pdf)
If you contact Iain Mills he will supply a permit for the beaches you wish to detect free of charge.
 
hope this helps.
 
Regards
Trevor
 
 
Trevor Austin
NCMD General Secretary


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Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: DATA311(Alan) on July 16, 2009, 12:17:53 PM
I contacted the Crown when I 1st stared detecting back in March in regards of permission to detect beaches, and as most of the info given already is correct, Iain Mills will suply your permit via e-mail, he will also suply a map showing all the beaches which are Crown controlled.
But Iain Mills also stipulated that you should keep in regular contact with the Crown Estates should any changes take place that would affect detecting on the beaches.....


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: altinkum on July 16, 2009, 06:04:08 PM
dont tell crown estates or anyone else anything it only put's idea's into their heads. when they charge people for sunbathing or kids digging holes in the sand then and only then will i think about paying to beach detect. how anyone can own a beach is beyond my thinking it's about time the public told these faceless wonders to chuff off


Title: Re: Geoff?Beach Detecting Rally?
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on July 16, 2009, 06:05:55 PM
yer  ;)


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