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Title: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: Spooyt Vane on January 28, 2015, 04:57:41 PM
A farm i have detecting for nearly 40yrs,keeps producing nice  surprises..I have brought many detectorists on this  farm and still it gives in dribs and drabs.........My answer is no :D


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: david995 on January 28, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
certainly if a field is ploughed now and then that will keep the stuff coming , and no matter how effiecient we think we are we still miss bits ,

 i have some pasture thats never been ploughed , and i'm not saying there is nothing to be found but i can say there is not much now   

wet and frosty conditions can give you some more depth so if you had been on a field in hot dry conditions you could certainly go back now and find things


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: 150aceboy on January 28, 2015, 08:17:46 PM
I have a similar permission myself, been pasture for many years, yet i've had 100's of coins, artifacts, etc.

Has been detected over and over by my son, son-in-law, and myself in the past, and last year TheLovedoc and myself give it another bash, with his Safari equiped with a coil the size of a dustbin lid  ;D and still produced, Edward I hammered penny, William III lovetoken, Vicky Joey, fob seal, etc.

Tried it again the end of last summer with my previous detector ( Euro Ace ), and a beautiful 1866 Vicky Half Soveriegn popped out  :o :o

I have researched maps etc, and nothing special comes to light of the use of the field, strange  ???

So my answer would be No, as long as my little field is there, something will come home with me  :) ;)


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 28, 2015, 09:35:42 PM
We've had this subject a few times before and I think the consensus was that although finds get fewer and less frequent it's the detectorists interest that runs out before the finds ;)


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: Rob Two Spades on January 29, 2015, 10:03:41 PM
There is a field next to a church near me that used to be a roman market. Its still got loads of oyster shells on it. The farmer has let everyone go on it for 20 years so after the last ploughing four of us spent a whole afternoon on it. We found three pieces of lead between us!! So I think so sometimes!


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: sinky on January 29, 2015, 10:22:34 PM
Please ask me 2 come  with u will pay  4 petrol and sarnies ta  sinky


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 29, 2015, 10:24:58 PM
The thing is that if land is left in pasture for just 100 years a normal 8 or 9 inch plough won't even come close to touching older finds unless on hillsides or uplands where erosion can cancel out the build up of top soil so I would say they don't run out but maybe our machine run out of depth ;)


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: midastouch on January 29, 2015, 10:44:03 PM
Small coins on their side can be missed many times, and then along comes a friendly worm to give it a nudge which then puts it in range of the next detectorist  ;D


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: Dryland on January 29, 2015, 11:42:36 PM
WANTED -- One friendly worm to nudge coins my way, If you have any please get in touch


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 29, 2015, 11:44:59 PM
It's worms that bury the damn things in the first place >:(


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: Dryland on January 30, 2015, 12:48:40 AM
Yes, but they're the unfriendly worms ;D


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: midastouch on January 30, 2015, 08:06:49 AM
 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: probono on January 30, 2015, 08:57:52 AM
The thing is that if land is left in pasture for just 100 years a normal 8 or 9 inch plough won't even come close to touching older finds unless on hillsides or uplands where erosion can cancel out the build up of top soil so I would say they don't run out but maybe our machine run out of depth ;)

To true - there's a field I go to that I know will be good if the farmer ever ploughs it - but I haven't found anything non-ferrous on it for a year (but it was very good to me before that).


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: Spooyt Vane on January 30, 2015, 01:40:28 PM
There is one exception to a pasture land field where I found a hoard of Edward 1/2 & Alexander 111 ( 176 silver pennies) back in 1978 and the club in 1981(90 silver pennies)...Quite recently  one of our members  got permission and recovered 120 silver pennies which have been through the Treasure Trove system..I have spent many hours on this site and swing speed,weather conditions,angle of coil to earth,latest technology ,coins liying at funny angles etc..This field has not been ploughed since 1930s...The latest technology is helping to get those awkward signals ..


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: david995 on January 30, 2015, 03:16:50 PM
I would offer to plough the field for free to the farmer


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: Spooyt Vane on January 30, 2015, 03:47:13 PM
I would offer to plough the field for free to the farmer

The farmer leases the land to a sheep farmer to run his stock and I think if you looked at these leases their is strong no cultivation clause In all these agreements ...


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: david995 on January 30, 2015, 06:11:03 PM
finding 2 or 3  hoards on the same field was there a medieval village there ?


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: 150aceboy on January 31, 2015, 12:48:50 AM
finding 2 or 3  hoards on the same field was there a medieval village there ?

Thinking on the same lines Dave, there must have been a substantial settlement or similar on that permission for so many hoards in one place, wonder what else could come to light if it was ploughed.


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: Spooyt Vane on January 31, 2015, 01:46:48 PM
finding 2 or 3  hoards on the same field was there a medieval village there ?

No village Dave and Paul ..We think there was medieval track leading south from old Nunnery (PRIORY) and the track was going through this Monastic farm where the hoard came from...In 1315 a Irish Brigande Richard de Mandiville landed an army on the Isle of man then defeated a Manx army and went on to pillage the Abbey and tortured the l;ocals over a six week period to find where they buried their silver..What I didn't pick up on all those years ago why were the centre of the coins still shiny in the centre..Then the penny dropped (excuse the pun) .I detected on Glen that was next to amusement arcade and I was getting neat piles of pre decimal pennies with a nice patina in centre .Then I remembered what idid as a child .....Wrapped up the winning in my hankie when I was a nipper and played on the swings in same glen and probably lost some of those same piles..We are also convinced that all the coins are fron  the hoard site are from same hoard ( scattered by the plough0 and they were wrapped in cloth and their might been as many six hundred coins plus..They were probably stuck together using goose grease or candle wax before stuck together as a roll before being wrapped and their was three coins stuck together ( THE ONE IN MIDDLE WAS FOREIGN  COPY)..We also think this is part of Abbey or Priory
Treasury ...


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 31, 2015, 02:07:44 PM
Not sure about an Irish brigand as Richard de Mandeville came from Oxfordshire (Cotswolds) and was the great Grandson of Geoffrey de Mandeville 1st Earl of Essex one of the most powerful knights in the country, I think he was more a man with a good eye for a bargain ;D as he went back in 1329 with an "gang" of Scotsmen and did the same again ;)


Title: Re: Is A Good Site Ever Become Barren Of Good Finds?
Post by: Spooyt Vane on January 31, 2015, 03:51:42 PM
Not sure about an Irish brigand as Richard de Mandeville came from Oxfordshire (Cotswolds) and was the great Grandson of Geoffrey de Mandeville 1st Earl of Essex one of the most powerful knights in the country, I think he was more a man with a good eye for a bargain ;D as he went back in 1329 with an "gang" of Scotsmen and did the same again ;)

Certainly no gentleman Geoff and he was careful to leave the  recaptured castle Rushen (now in English hands) alone..I think the ENGLISH crown allowed him with his Irish Freebooters to do some pay back on the monastic order for their support in Robert The Bruces earlier invasion without a finger being pointed at the English by the use of a Irish army..He was called a Irish Brigand by insult in  some religious quarters ..Geoff lol


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