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Saw this on another forum, worth looking at results ;;D

http://www.detectortest.info/ (http://www.detectortest.info/)

Interesting results , however , i noticed that the explorers , were given every chance to succeed , i'm not knocking them as i know they are excellent , what i mean is they were tested over the same area using different programmes and then different coils , OK so it helps when setting them up , but how many people will go over the same area using different coil/programme combinations , it just doesn't happen , so in theory if you get your choice of set up wrong , your no better off than some of the other machines working in their factory set up, and most of the others were tested that way, using only their standard coils .

I agree Mike. It seems that Minelabs are the "Manchester United" of detectors in these tests. Keep altering the rules until they get a win  ;)

I disagree there tbh, dont get me wrong I know where you comming from but several machines are with different coils or setup. I  wouldnt take much notice of tests anyway as its not an exact science. there are so many variables involved its going to e very hard to do a proper test. Look at the garrett on there and it fails miserably yet people still find things with it, the laser didnt do to well either. Yet I still prefer it over the SE which I know goes deeper.

I'm not having a go at the explorer range , as i know damn well what they can doif set up correctly i was just trying to point out that the test itself is an unfair reflection on other makes considering the amount of variations tried with the explore range compared with others, consider this :

One man with one machine in a one acre field with one buried coin, how long would it take to find that coin , take into account the different programmes and coils the time taken could go into infinitum,or he could find it on the first sweep , who knows,,,  reminds me of a saying i heard , i think on Not the nine o'clock news

 "its like a blind man ,in a dark room ,looking for a black cat that isn't there"

I know what you mean im saying the test isnt fair anyway on any machine. But I do think some people have got minelab on the brain. I we looking at the same thing here?

Yes your right , i think were both on the same track

It also shows that in reality there isnt alot of difference between different models,

as always and it has been said a thousand times, it all depends on ground conditions and how a given detector is set up for those conditions and whether the end user is proficient with his or hers detector.

I noticed e.trac didnt excel above the se  ;D  though other brands did shine !

I note some very interesting replies  ;)

Its not what you use but how good you are at using it

well said Dave  ;D applies to everything don it  ;)

I dont only think its how you use it.
You can have the best Detector out but if you dont enjoy using it.
I was in this situation few months ago I had an explorer 11 that i hated using.
Since if got a differant machine (f75) my enthusiasm has returned so I'm finding more ;0)

Yip agree with that you got to enjoy it to get the most out of it. Its the same in fishing I think. Just got back in after an hour out absolutly soaked thru

Hi Paul/lisa

I think i went out on the best day we,ll have for a while...Yesterday

Im not planning to go anywhere this weekend or next week Ive had enough of getting soaked ;0(

regards
phil

Firstly how much did minelab pay the 'Detectorist' to publish those results :D and did they remember to actually turn the Garrett Ace 250 on before the test started? ;D
 (I have had both machines, currently using Minelab SE pro with latest search coil, use it on all metal and it is very sensitive that must be agreed but looking at that test I'm not totally convinced its reliable the Garrett Ace 250 was, well ACE I thought! :-\ )

Hi Phill dont blame you its raining cats an dogs. Hi cadzy but thats exactly what I am saying. I loved the 250 but looking at that test no one would buy one. Yet we all know people that have found things with 250s so it dosnt add up does it. there u go we have just been out I found a ring with the hawkeye Lisa found nothing with the SE. dosnt mean the laser is a better machine nor that im better than her. theres so many factors to take in. Personnally I think if you enjoy your machine and focused then you will find more dosnt matter if its a cheap machine or top of the range right im off rugbys on

HiPaul/Lisa Well said and totally agree with your comment.

Paul an Lisa, thats not strictly correct, !

There are top of the range detectors out there that do have an edge over their rivals.

Phil is right as well, we all have to be comfortable and confident with our respective tectors or we will not find the goodies.

Minelab have a very good sales team and seem to corner the market in brainwashing most of us into buying their tectors.

There doesnt appear to be any other rival manufacturer prepared to take on the media sales like minelab do.

I have just bought two chinese made tectors, imported and just waiting for a fine day to test them against expl se.

They both have a good spec, supposedly go 1.5metres  ::) yet less than £100 each !

1.5 Metres? ??? You had better take a JCB Digger with you then  :D

UMMM 1.5m. you wouldn't be able to lift the coil, it would be just over a meter square ;D (laws of physics)

I have to agree Paul/Lisa you wouldn't touch a Garrett after reading that but they are great little machines. Check the results for the Sovereign Elite it makes it sound as if it's a stick, I've owned all the sovereigns down the years including the Elite and the Gt and in my view there is nothing between them as far as performance is concerned, but look at the difference in the results. Something wrong there.

I agree whole heartedly 1.5meters  ::)

I have them and they re a little plastic ky, the search coil is larger than a wot coil but not as heavy. I repeated the depth, but but I am not a fool, i think they placed a square alliminimum (2many m's) in the ground and assessed depth on that, it will be
interesting to see what depth they will go on silver hammered, time will tell  ;D

For the money, its worth a little speculation,

I agree chef, the results for the elite were dreadful, they are still one of the best tectors for beach use and as an alrounder. especially as an ears only tector.

One wonders who is behind these results.??

It all boils down to the same thing everytime, you have to put the coil over a good target ! If it aint there you wont find it no matter how costly the tector  ;D