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Title: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Dungbeetle on November 23, 2015, 09:34:40 PM
Has anyone changed  the coil battery on a Deus ? If so how hard was it, where did you get the battery from and how much ?


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 23, 2015, 11:09:29 PM
As far as I know the battery now has to now be changed by Regton XP did sell a replacement kit for around £15 and also produced a video (link below) but I have a feeling there were some worries regarding people not waterproofing it properly ???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bND5Ius163o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bND5Ius163o)


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Dungbeetle on November 23, 2015, 11:48:18 PM
Thanks for that link Geoff, I can't find the kit anywhere !


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: handyman [Alan} on November 24, 2015, 08:07:29 AM
Here's my recent experience in respect of sending the Deus to Regtons for a replacement battery. The service was first class.

http://www.detectingwales.com/index.php?topic=24875.0 (http://www.detectingwales.com/index.php?topic=24875.0)


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Da Monkey on November 24, 2015, 12:13:39 PM
How much did you get charged Alan ?


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Dungbeetle on November 24, 2015, 12:42:36 PM
How much did you get charged Alan ?
I've just had a price off Regions for £76-95 which includes return postage


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 24, 2015, 01:04:04 PM
How Much!!!
(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chef_02/Shocked-animated-Rowan_Atkison-a-shocked-mr-bean.gif)

"includes return postage" for that money I'd want it delivered by armoured car with 6 motorcycle outriders :o
OK I take it back about waterproofing maybe XP realised how much money they could make ??? The batteries are only around £8.50 :-\


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Nigel at Regtons on November 24, 2015, 01:56:48 PM
No they are not Geoff, I'd love to know where you get your prices from :)

Firstly the kit was never £15, it was £55, the battery for information is £33, the kit that goes with that allowing it to be installed with new 'lid', glues etc brings it up to £50, we add labour £20, then £7 return carriage.

What do we do for £20 ?

Firstly we soak test your original battery to make sure it really is battery & not a charging issue
We then remove original battery & connect new battery & conduct the same test, if all OK we prepare the battery opening for silicon & then glue, 24hrs curing then re-test.

The reason XP do not sell the kits is because a few thought they could do it just like the video, it's not as easy as it appears, one person cut the old battery out and also cut off the wires to the battery, scrap coil ! a few have not followed instructions & had leaking coils, we take on those risks when we change the battery so maybe that £20 is well spent after all ?.


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 24, 2015, 02:59:09 PM
I'm sorry I thought the kit was £15... So are you trying to tell me that Regton pay XP around £33 for each battery and that when you sell a battery you make absolutely no profit? of course not  I can go on line now and buy the exact same XP authorised battery for £21 and even they are making a profit and I think everyone understands that a profit has to be made or none of us would be in business long but when a relatively cheap battery starts costing the same as a new smart phone or 2 microwave ovens then I'm sure you can understand the shock.


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Nigel at Regtons on November 24, 2015, 04:04:01 PM
I'm not trying to tell you anything of the sort Geoff, you made a sweeping statement that was clearly wide of the mark & very misleading so I've stated what we sell the items for.





Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: outlaw on November 24, 2015, 10:39:39 PM
How often does the battery require replacing, ??????


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Dungbeetle on November 24, 2015, 10:45:55 PM
How often does the battery require replacing, ??????
I've had the Deus for nearly five years and it's seen a lot of use but it's getting down to about six hours use per charge now. That isn't bad if you compare it to other machines that use ordinary batteries.


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Resurgam on November 25, 2015, 05:12:45 AM
                    Thanks for the Deus education chaps. I don't think that I will buying one any time soon!

                     So those guys and gals that purchased a larger coil for their machines now have two coils, each with a built in battery that will require an expensive battery change somewhere down the line?  ::)

                     When I say expensive, that is not a jibe at Regtons. After all, you do get some form of warranty on their reliable workmanship don't you?

                     


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: hotmill on November 25, 2015, 03:04:55 PM
                    Thanks for the Deus education chaps. I don't think that I will buying one any time soon!

                     So those guys and gals that purchased a larger coil for their machines now have two coils, each with a built in battery that will require an expensive battery change somewhere down the line?  ::)

                     When I say expensive, that is not a jibe at Regtons. After all, you do get some form of warranty on their reliable workmanship don't you?

                     

Not that expensive considering what you would pay for decent batteries over 5 years of detecting, I'll wager a lot more than the cost of replacing a battery on a Deus. I guess you could factor in the electricity required to charge the Deus coil/unit/headphones as well but I still reckon it would be cheaper than replacing normal batteries over 5 years. It would be interesting to figure out the cost comparison.


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Resurgam on November 25, 2015, 03:45:03 PM
Very valid point.  ;)


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: dingdong on November 25, 2015, 05:54:37 PM
Hemm!!! I liken this thread to,say,you run a top line car Jag,Bently,Rolls,etc,you would EXPECT to spend that much more on servicing and general maintenance SO,if you buy into a top line metal detector,you shouldn't be surprised if it costs more to keep a top line detector in top form,just my opinion, not said to try an influence anyone in any way...LOL👍


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: wet feet again on November 25, 2015, 11:02:33 PM
would it be cheaper to speed charge it while you have a brew half way through the day ?


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Dungbeetle on November 25, 2015, 11:24:49 PM
would it be cheaper to speed charge it while you have a brew half way through the day ?
The battery is still on its way out Steve, so needs replacing. I haven't bought a battery in five years and haven't had to shell out for a couple of pinpointers in the same time so it isn't that expensive


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Nigel at Regtons on November 26, 2015, 03:54:08 PM
Speed charging isn't good for any battery, slow is great but frustrating, topping up is fine though as wet feet suggested

As for life,5 years is about what I would expect from a coil battery, maybe another year on phones or remote as they don't have such a hard life, these two batts can be changed by the owner & are £33 each, easy fit.

There are many variable that affect overall battery life, my own Deus is a tad over 6 years old & still has all original batts (lower capacity when it came out), the coil batt however I'm down to 5-6 hrs from it's original 8-9 hrs so time to replace with the later high capacity batts.


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: nobby on November 26, 2015, 06:24:12 PM
hiya Nige......as a man of the industry, any chance you can influence the eggheads at xp and get them to upgrade the Deus to wireless charging?....that clip charger is a total pain in the aris ;)


Title: Re: Deus, changing coil battery
Post by: Nigel at Regtons on December 08, 2015, 02:35:42 PM
Sorry for late reply, I did indeed ask that very question before the Deus came out, Alain explained the reasons why induction charging wouldn't be suitable but can't remember now 7yrs on, sorry.


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