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Title: could you id this coin for me please
Post by: the sutt on May 24, 2009, 08:52:23 PM
hi doc. sorry this coin is not in good condition but could you have a look at it for me please and thanks.


Title: Re: could you id this coin for me please
Post by: Gadget(Ian) on May 24, 2009, 08:57:19 PM
hi the sut i think the bottom picture is of a early britania. i think it is a george 11 half penny 1727 to 1760  its a shame these coppers did not stay in better condition.


Title: Re: could you id this coin for me please
Post by: The Doc on May 24, 2009, 09:34:14 PM
I think this is a Georgian period halfpenny "evasion" .

Along with counterfeits there were several "evasion issues" produced in England and Ireland. These issues did not try to make exact copies of coppers (usually halfpence), instead they only tried to closely resemble regular issues. Usually the images would be the same but the motto "Georgius III Rex" would be changed to "George Rules", "Georgius III Pax", "Britain Rules" or the like. Sometimes the portrait of the king would face in the wrong direction. Since these coins were not exact copies of regal issues, the makers could not be charged with counterfeiting under English law. Some individuals turned to evasion pieces as early as the 1750's but the majority were produced after counterfeiting coppers was made a felony in 1771.

I don't think it's a normal issue because George appears to be wearing a helmet. It's probably something like this, but with the head facing the other way. I can't find a picture of the exact one:

http://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/AT.0439.001.html (http://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/AT.0439.001.html)


Title: Re: could you id this coin for me please
Post by: hedgehog on May 24, 2009, 09:46:38 PM
some good information there Peter, never knew that! Well spotted good i.d.


Title: Re: could you id this coin for me please
Post by: the sutt on May 24, 2009, 09:49:03 PM
wow, do you know your stuff. you should be called the professor
but the doc will do just as good.thanks again that was eye opening.


Title: Re: could you id this coin for me please
Post by: the sutt on May 24, 2009, 09:57:17 PM
hi again doc. you are going to get fed up of me, is it worth me trying to clean the copper coin up so that you can see it a bit more clearly


Title: Re: could you id this coin for me please
Post by: Gadget(Ian) on May 24, 2009, 10:06:36 PM
i was close george half penny ;)well done the doc


Title: Re: could you id this coin for me please
Post by: the sutt on May 24, 2009, 10:31:26 PM
sorry i didn"t get back to you gadget  yes mate smack on there.
and thanks for your infor. all information is gladly receieved


Title: Re: could you id this coin for me please
Post by: ROMAN STEVE on May 25, 2009, 07:56:22 PM
AT LEAST U KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW
STU AND CONGRATS ON BECOMING A FULL
MEMBER ;D


Title: Re: could you id this coin for me please
Post by: Al.Thepastfinder, ( Alan ) on May 25, 2009, 08:13:12 PM
ohhhh  yes, well done there Stu,  congrats on becoming a full member mate
 Alan.


Title: Re: could you id this coin for me please
Post by: the sutt on May 25, 2009, 08:25:23 PM
yippee, im a full member at last. thanks alan and steven
this is a good forum and i am enjoying myself on here i want to be like thepastfinder, a super hero/ one day, one day.


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