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Title: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: Metalmickey on July 24, 2011, 04:20:06 PM
Hi, found 23/07/11 - Any ideas appreciated folks  ???


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: Mick on July 24, 2011, 04:24:35 PM
From Wikipedia  ;)

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The word swastika came from the Sanskrit word svastika, meaning any lucky or auspicious object, and in particular a mark made on persons and things to denote good luck. It is composed of su- meaning "good, well" and asti "to be" svasti thus means "well-being." The suffix -ka either forms a diminutive or intensifies the verbal meaning, and svastika might thus be translated literally as "that which is associated with well-being," corresponding to "lucky charm" or "thing that is auspicious."[


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: Chef Geoff on July 24, 2011, 04:25:32 PM
I don't think it's got any thing to do with the Nazi emblem, the swastika is an ancient symbol of good luck that dates back thousands of years.


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: Metalmickey on July 24, 2011, 04:27:43 PM
It`s the inscription that`s baffling me really, why two years  ???


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: Jon1987 on July 24, 2011, 04:28:33 PM
Looking at it I would say it's not anything to do with nazis, that symbol is an acient one used for thousands of years before the nazis came along. It often meant well being or good luck.


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: Jon1987 on July 24, 2011, 04:29:20 PM
Lol sorry to repeat you Geoff, I didn't see your post.


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: tyna on July 24, 2011, 05:00:16 PM
Reference to the Berwick prize  ???  Well possible eh  ???


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: Metalmickey on July 24, 2011, 05:08:45 PM
Therefore it must be pre 1930's if it's a good luck charm made before the Nazi party adopted it as their symbol of choice.


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: Villan (Neil) on July 24, 2011, 07:32:08 PM
Interesting find there bud.I found a worn bottle top on one of my farms with the swastika on it and did a bit of research into the it.Turned out mine was from The St Austell Brewery.I also found out that Carlsberg used the swastika on their advertising and even Coca Cola too.All to symbolise good luck,as mentioned before.Seems it was abandoned in their advertising when the nazi's adopted it.Good luck with your research. ;)


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: dances with badgers on July 24, 2011, 09:02:55 PM
its also an old pagan symbol if i remember when i was a witch


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: archie on July 25, 2011, 08:28:16 AM
 if i remember rightly, the sanskrit 'swastika' rotates in the opposite direction from the nazi one.


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: tyna on July 25, 2011, 01:04:32 PM
its also an old pagan symbol if i remember when i was a witch

Oh mikey - we must book an ouija  ???


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: Meatslicer on July 25, 2011, 04:58:49 PM
The Nazi Swastika was also displayed tilted like a diamond rather than a square.

Found this example on Ebay.

The seller says it was a Sunday School token.


Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: Neil on July 25, 2011, 06:28:04 PM
Interesting post guys!

Its still considered a good luck symbol in many countries today. I received a plate as a thank you from a UAE student I helped last year with a problem he had at University. I realised straight away it was meant in the best possible taste, sadly though I don't have it on my desk as I still think it could offend other less enlightened students.

Great find by the way.

The power of symbols, eh?

I am begining to sound like Robert Langdon from the Dan Brown books!

Neil




Title: Re: NAZI PENDANT - But why/when & for what ??
Post by: Jon1987 on July 25, 2011, 08:56:08 PM
I must admit Neil, those Dan Brown books really got me into symbols and there meanings. It's amazing how some symbols are still around after many of thousands of years. It is a dreadful shame the swastika is tarred so badly by the nazi party.

Jon


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