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Title: Two British Roman Emperors found on todays Rally...
Post by: jtalbot0001 on January 26, 2014, 12:23:51 AM
I saw two Roman coins turn up today, DaMonkey's and Monkeybike's, the one I could Identify straight away was Monkeybikes which was Carausius, and can now see on the picture it was indeed Mintmark C, which makes it this coin,

Carausius AE Antoninianus. Camulodunum mint. IMP C CARAVSIVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right / PAX AVG, Pax standing left, holding branch and vertical sceptre. S-P across fields. Mintmark C." RIC V-2, 300! Date: 287-293 AD.

The second which I couldn't quite read was DaMonkey's and now can see it is also a British Roman Emperor, Allectus!! This is the Galley type,

Allectus AE Quinarius. Camulodunum mint. IMP C ALLECTVS [P F] (probably since the space between S and AVG is large enough for the two letters PF) AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right / VIRTVS AVG (probably), galley rowing left (definitely!), QC (definitely) in ex. RIC 128; Sear 13874 and 13877. Date: 293-296 AD.

I might be wrong but this must be one of the few rallies on D.W. or even the first with two British Roman coins found on the same day on the same field so close to one another.

Cheers,
Jon



Title: Re: Two British Roman Emperors found on todays Rally...
Post by: DEADLOCK on January 26, 2014, 08:42:55 AM
Nice work Jon


Title: Re: Two British Roman Emperors found on todays Rally...
Post by: Da Monkey on January 26, 2014, 09:25:51 AM
Cheers Jon :) you were the first person to confirm my coin as being what I thought it was in the field :) many thanks for that.

It's my first radiate, what surprised me was how thin it was I had always thought they'd be a thicker flan, I guess they were getting short of funds around then...

Another interesting thing is that my emperor was sent to overthrow monkeybike`s emperor and that as you say, they were really found just yards apart  :o

And we are both monkey's :o :o. What are the odds ??   Lol.

Found this wiki link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allectus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allectus)


Title: Re: Two British Roman Emperors found on todays Rally...
Post by: legio11augustus on January 26, 2014, 10:51:15 AM
well done on the identifying,interesting read


Title: Re: Two British Roman Emperors found on todays Rally...
Post by: probono on January 26, 2014, 03:34:14 PM
If I was being fussy I managed to post what the coins were 2 hours before John :) - but to be fair he did actually nail them down a bit better than my 'allectus / carausisu' post :) lol

Allectus wasn't sent to over throw Carausius - he was Carausius' finance minister before he murdered Carausius - I always imagine Carausius saying '' Et tu Allectus' as the knife / poison / whatever took affect.


Title: Re: Two British Roman Emperors found on todays Rally...
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 26, 2014, 03:45:26 PM
And you still would have been hours late as Handyman told me what had been found half an hour after they were found so the coconut goes to Alan :D


Title: Re: Two British Roman Emperors found on todays Rally...
Post by: jtalbot0001 on January 26, 2014, 04:26:53 PM
Didn't see your post sorry Probono (I cannot access the site properly like everyone else). I actually saw the Allectus coin a minute or two after it was found and the Carausius coin seconds after it was found, I helped confirm it was Carausius there and then actually but didn't see the C mint till I saw the picture, and said to DaMonkey I would help I'd his later on as I couldn't quite see the writing properly at the time hence my post. Shame the Galley side is so worn on his.


Title: Re: Two British Roman Emperors found on todays Rally...
Post by: Dryland on January 26, 2014, 04:30:30 PM
I actually saw the coins 20 minutes before they had even been detected ;D


Title: Re: Two British Roman Emperors found on todays Rally...
Post by: Da Monkey on January 26, 2014, 05:19:23 PM
Well, all I can say is everyone did a truly great job of the ID, all I thought was "that looks like a radiate" and even that I had my doubts about as it was so thin, so all I can say is I'm glad there are folk like all you lot on here otherwise I still wouldn't have known...

I'm extremely grateful for your help and Kudos to all  :)


Title: Re: Two British Roman Emperors found on todays Rally...
Post by: probono on January 26, 2014, 08:53:43 PM
I actually saw the coins 20 minutes before they had even been detected ;D

Well I was personal friends with the person who minted the coins - I used to go down the pub with him on his days off :)  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

And it's a wonder that children these days don't believe a word we say (with humble apologies to the Yorkshire sketch)


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