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Metal Detecting Rallies => DetectingWales.com Rally Reports => Topic started by: Neil on April 07, 2014, 02:50:38 PM



Title: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Neil on April 07, 2014, 02:50:38 PM
Detecting Wales Rally 75 – When in Rome . . .

Sunday saw an early start and a return to the Moorlinch site that had been visited just the week before. This week however apart from the previous fields we had another eight to shake our coils at with a promise of more Roman and Medieval metalworking aching to be salvaged.

I personally was suffering a tad at the 7am pick up, following a late night out three nights running, and only having had about 5 hours sleep. My mood was only lightened when Taff Laff started barracking some birds with “You’re a Rubbish 80’s band!” Turned out he had spotted a Flock of Seagulls in a field along the M5!

The in-car debate bounced eclectically from one topic to another focusing briefly on lamppost distance and Reggae Mike spotting, onto how to know what speed you should be going, Taff’s obsession with The Communards, and then full circle and back to the band Flock of Seagulls again. Did they exist?  If they did, what did they sing, and should Nobby really style his hair on them?  As conversations do, this naturally led onto Justin being Facebook friends with Adam Ant, and Taff questioning his sexuality – Adam’s, not Justin’s I hasten to add.

Jesus, at one point I thought I was still asleep, and having some kind of lucid dream, but no I was indeed awake and this was reality. The only saving grace was that Taff wasn’t driving!

The time flew by and we arrived to find the loyal Detecting Wales members turning up in their droves, and at about 9.15am we hit the fields eager to discover what they day had in store for us.

Today as usual we had detectorists from all over the world, including Poland, Czech Republic, South Africa, France, England, Ireland and Wales.  It was brought to my attention later in the day by an impeccable source, that someone had taken umbrage with the various nationalities that were present, and had been voicing an opinion regarding it. I’d love to know who it was, as it will be their last rally with us. We pride ourselves on how friendly DW rallies are, so if anyone has any further information they want to share with me anonymously let me know via PM.  I hasten to add this subject is not for public debate on DW. Get in touch with me directly please.

Anyway back to the more important matter of detecting, and I had barely stepped foot in a field when Deadlock was signalling for a photo, as he had just unearthed a cut quarter from a voided long cross. A tiny little item which proves his machine is certainly working well.

Next in line was Dances With Badgers who for once was off the beach and getting soil amongst his little toes instead of sand. Mike had a broad smile on his face as he initially showed me two cracking Romans and then later signalled he was up to five, and I think as the day progressed his score went even higher, to the point that I am considering changing his name to Dances With Romans.

Close to Mike was Da Monkey who was joining the Latin theme with the first Roman brooch of the day in the style of an enamelled umbonate disc brooch. I don’t recall us ever having one of these turn up on a DW rally before and I am looking forward to Andy’s cleaning job.

It all went a bit Roman crazy after this, as not only were casual losses turning up in every field, but the area where the Badger & Monkey were finding seemed to be producing for a number of people. Not me I hasten to add as I couldn’t find a needle in a stack of needles at the moment. Taff however was more than capable with at least seven unearthed along with half a medieval purse bar..

Deeper Sweeper was having a stellar day with firstly a shield carrying three lions rampant on the front that stunk of Medieval. Bizarrely I believe there was one found by another detectorist on the previous rally. I do wonder if they could perhaps be of a military nature and used on the front of encampment tents. This was certainly a practice during the Boer War and the idea had to start somewhere.

Not content with just the one stand out find of the day I later bumped into him in field two (just after I suggest he went into field three) brandishing something he initially thought may have been a kids sheriff badge, but thankfully realised had a lot more age before he hedged it. Coincidentally I had been flicking through Bennetts Artefacts only an hour early and I am pretty certain that it’s a silvered Roman star shaped Tutlus brooch. If I had thought Da Monkey’s brooch had been scarce earlier, then now we were at a whole different ball game. These brooch finds along with Samian ware were beginning to point to it being once a very wealthy site.

Just to further underline that theory up popped Colin with a silver washed Roman, and behind him was Wayno going one better with a silver denarii (I remember you finding your first one, a Julia Domna on a DW rally many moons ago mate). Wayno also had a smattering of Romans and a milled silver Joey. I think it was his father who also found a clean example of a William III sixpence that for once had not been tokenised.

Speaking of tokens, I must have seen at least six throughout the day in various conditions and mainly of the Civitas Bristol variety. Buckles seemed quite common with a large silvered one being found in field two that may indeed turn out to be silver.

Its hard to recall everything, but I can confirm young Nobby had what looks like it will be a stunning follis once the crud has lifted. There were several army cap badges that surfaced along with the odd milled silver, musket balls, copper coinage, buckles , a guestimated eight hammered coins, tons of Iron Age pottery,  oh and a conservative figure of 60 Roman coins!

Dominic discovered his first medieval bee hive thimble that he is going to kindly donate to his nephew. Well possibly, or he may just let him have a quick look at it and snatch it back!

Hammerhoid and Cut Half had a multitude of finds amongst them and ones in particular that stand out include what I think is a Roman belt slider (its certainly in the Roman military fittings book) and a coin weight that hints at the commerce taking place on this site. Celtic Spikey had a hammered quarter and our own TaffLaff even found a cut half that I luckily captured an in the soil shot of.

The Rooky Pair also had their first thimble, with Nordine discovering a Roman fibula and Roman coinage. As for myself, I unearthed a piece of furniture fitting that for once I was happy to find as its almost complete and has a touch of Georgian Rocco styling about it. I am in the middle of one of those “dark spells” at the moment, so I was relatively pleased with it. It happens to all of us from time to time and you just got to keep the faith and swing through it – so to speak.

I got a feeling the amount of Roman coinage found will be keeping some of our resident Roman numismatic experts (Doc, Probono, Cheffy, Alan, etc) busy all week with ID requests. They seem to be relatively late ones in the main and the soil has certainly been kind to a lot of them.

At 6pm the vast majority had departed and we headed off to see the farmer, who was happy to see us, and more than willing to have us back which is great news. On that note Chef is building a finds picture of the farm for the farmer to have in a frame, so if anyone has anything from the farm they would like to donate get in touch with Cheffy.

I personally can’t wait to return here once the plough has worked its magic, so mark your diaries now ladies and gents for several dates in March 2015 – I got a feeling they will be memorable.

The next rally will be announced in a week or so, until then keep checking in at Wales’ Premier Metal Detecting site.

Keep the Faith

Neil


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Neil on April 07, 2014, 02:51:15 PM

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Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Neil on April 07, 2014, 02:51:29 PM
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Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Neil on April 07, 2014, 02:51:41 PM
Reserved - photos coming shortly

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Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Neil on April 07, 2014, 02:51:58 PM
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Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Neil on April 07, 2014, 02:52:27 PM
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Close up images:


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: dances with badgers on April 07, 2014, 03:49:44 PM
i ran i ran so far away lol


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 07, 2014, 03:54:24 PM
well done everyone, and an excellent report Neil

I would hope that all those finding the roman and medieaval coins and artefacts, would make the effort and record them with their FLO as it will certainly help add to the bigger picture of whats going on in the area.



Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: colin on April 07, 2014, 05:21:41 PM
posting this on behalf of terry hes hoping its roman I think,looks like a racing car body to me lol  ;)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 07, 2014, 05:25:25 PM
Fabulous write up as ever Neil it was almost like being there well I was but not that you'd think it by my finds :'(
It was another great day and well done all for filling your holes and, in the main taking not reburying iron, if anything I think we had too much land but at least next year we'll be able to plan a few rallies out to cover it all.
I did say in my little talk about field 8 possibly being good but there is no way in gods earth I expected Roman and it's an exciting find for the village so not to harp on but please record your finds as I'll be putting in a report to the Somerset FLO about the discovery and also about the Roman coins from the corner of field 2, so in 6 months time I hope to hear that loads of finds have been recorded from this farm.
I had forgotten all about the Sheriff's badge so just did some searching and yes it is indeed a Roman brooch and a rare one at that at least on these shore's as it's a continental made brooch and far earlier than I would have guessed at around 50-100AD so well done the finder and Neil for spotting it ;)
I think we may get some answers next year after the turn of the plough as too why 2 Nobel coin weights and 5 seal matrix have come off two fields but lacking the coins you would expect from a gathering site.
This site will be hard to beat but we'll try ;)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: jtalbot0001 on April 07, 2014, 05:29:54 PM
That was a very good read. Thanks for the great day out yesterday, didn't find much myself but was good to see the other finds on the day. I was lucky enough to find a few trade tokens, I thought I found one but after coming home realised I had another. The one I showed Geoff and Rob was James Cane of Stalbridge (I forget who won the debate of the town name lol) 1666 and with a glove not a hand as I first thought. Stalbridge is 30 miles away to the south from where we were. My other one was a William Hopkins of Axbridge 1656 with flear-de-lis. Axbridge is 16 miles to the north. So a popular destination it seems, wonder why.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Dale on April 07, 2014, 05:42:45 PM
Great write up Neil ;)

Photo 1 to me looks to be a trefoil handle off another seal?


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Neil on April 07, 2014, 05:48:40 PM
Do you know what Dale - I was just thinking the same thing!

Glad you all are enjoying the read.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 07, 2014, 05:52:56 PM
Well spotted Dale but Roman or Georgian ??? ummm


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: diggaduff on April 07, 2014, 06:01:34 PM
Lots of cracking finds well done all  :)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: HAMMERRHOID on April 07, 2014, 06:05:48 PM
Excellent read as usual Neil and a great day with brilliant finds  and the weather was better than I expected . Heres looking forward to the next one  :)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: probono on April 07, 2014, 06:06:06 PM
Interestingly enough, the denarius seems to be a hybrid - the obverse is Elagabalus, but the reverse has a trp number (regnal year effectively) that points to Caracalla.....

Col's roman is a silver ant of Treb Gallus, reverse Liberalitas Avgg.

Amongst the others, I've seen a Claudius Gothicus (Spes Avgg reverse) and the usual smatterings of c. 320-340AD coins (and I think one Victorinus, but it was upside down).

Nice brooches - funnily enough I've found an almost exact match for the disc brooch - and apparently they are more common on the eastern seaboard than this side of the country.

Definitely a good site. I'll have to plan to not commit myself elsewhere to come on the return next year :)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: kencomet on April 07, 2014, 06:14:36 PM
Had a most enjoyable day, my finds were a bit on the thin side, did manage a cracking George the 3rd 1696 sixpence, and a very old  penknife, detector played up in the rain, to curtail my Roman finds lol, can't wait to return next year, a big thank you to all at DW for making it possible...


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Dale on April 07, 2014, 06:15:31 PM
Well spotted Dale but Roman or Georgian ??? ummm

Having a look at others id go post-medieval.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Dale on April 07, 2014, 06:17:32 PM
Had a most enjoyable day, my finds were a bit on the thin side, did manage a cracking George the 3rd 1696 sixpence, and a very old  penknife, detector played up in the rain, to curtail my Roman finds lol, can't wait to return next year, a big thank you to all at DW for making it possible...

I wish I had a George 3rd 1696 6d ;) ;D


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: chantalpoole on April 07, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
excellent rally , well worth the drive from the west wales coast.
well done and thank you to all who organised it
i also got to meet some of the people in real life that i have met on DW
thanks  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: deepersweeper on April 07, 2014, 06:27:52 PM
Great write up Neil,what a great rally i haven;t been to a rally where so much stuff has been found and many thanks to Chef geof for id on the sherrif's badge brooch.gret pics too and when DW decides to return to this site you can stick my name down straight away.The weather held off for most of the day too.yet again Detecting Wales has come up trumps well done to all who organised the event and to all who were able to turn up and make the day the success that it was many thanks again. Alan :) :) :)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: CUT/HALF on April 07, 2014, 06:28:57 PM
Brilliant report there Neil. Great read. It was a fantastic site and it was great to see so much being found. I had one of my best ever days detecting with the amount of different finds I amassed. Thanks again Neil and chef geoff for taking the photos of my finds and telling me what most of them were. I had a brilliant day and it's all thanks to the DetectingWales team. Just looking forward to the next one now. Thanks again.
Here is some pictures of my other finds.  


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: CUT/HALF on April 07, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
More finds


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: CUT/HALF on April 07, 2014, 06:38:01 PM
Last of my finds from rally


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: anthonyjay on April 07, 2014, 06:53:34 PM
Thanks DW for a really good day, not so much on the finds, more about the good company, it's always good out with DW. All I had were a roman grot and a viccy halfpenny. Great report Neil as usual. ATB everyone AJ


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: roaljodaka on April 07, 2014, 06:53:56 PM
WOW !!!, some amazing finds, love looking at all these roman coins  :) :)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: JRD on April 07, 2014, 07:02:47 PM
Great write up and top day!

5 Roman for me (could not keep up with Rob though!) plus an old bent ring (pictured towards the bottom of the second set of Neil's photos).

Not sure what period the ring? But got some nice markings on it.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Napoleon on April 07, 2014, 07:21:55 PM
 ;) Merci Rob le Taff ,Neil le rioja , Chef le Mr2 , Nobby le smoked salami,  my first rallie rhis year and what a cracking result. A tres bientot .Nordine.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: wayno on April 07, 2014, 07:48:13 PM
Thanks again for another brilliant Rally. Big thank you go all that arranged it and a big thank you to farmer to let us detect the land.

Great write a usual Neil




Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: hoarder on April 07, 2014, 07:57:18 PM
as others have said ...a great day out with loads of finds for most attendees

i look forward to a return to this site ,would be good site for an august bank holiday weekender  ;)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: celticspikey on April 07, 2014, 08:05:39 PM

Cracking write up Neil, well done you guys for another enjoyable and productive rally, some lovely finds shown and as usual great company and chat. I had to chuckle seeing bacon being cooked in the back of a Jag boot :o guess that's what makes us detectorists such an interesting breed... Keep it up guys ;)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: CUT/HALF on April 07, 2014, 08:09:42 PM
Last pic


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Da Monkey on April 07, 2014, 08:18:09 PM
A great day out, truely enjoyable with great company, thanks for sorting guys :) looking forward to the return to this one :)

Any chance of someone giving me any IDs on my finds ?  Mine are the romans with the CM scale shown...  (I can PM higher res if needed.)

Chef did say that it was unusual to get that type of brooch in Somerset Probono, I think he said he's only seen the two, so I was a happy bunny :)  Hope your find was a bit more complete...

Thanks in advance,

- Andy


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: wayno on April 07, 2014, 08:22:33 PM
Hello all can any one id the Denari I found Antonius I can't seem to match it to any of his coins thanks


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Napoleon on April 07, 2014, 09:37:10 PM
 :D  Wayno you didnt donate your romans to the farmer maybe you  forgot ::),nice denari mate welldone.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: nonker10 on April 07, 2014, 10:08:28 PM
ding dong well done you lot.as soon as you come near hereford again i'll join in because i'm a lezy so&so and wont travel.well done on the great finds everyone.well done


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Dryland on April 07, 2014, 10:33:53 PM
Great report Neil and another fantastic rally, no finds for me and due to an emergency at home I nearly didn't make it, but again the friendliness and the great banter  from everyone who attended really lifted  my spirit. This Detecting Wales forum is very quickly turning into an extended family albeit the Adams family, ( you can make up your own minds which one is Uncle Fester ). For those of you who have never been on a DW Rally
You don't know what you're missing. My thanks also to Andy Da Monkey for taking me under his wing and giving me some great advice on using my detector, and no he didn't say "why don't you retire ". Next time we're at this farm I reckon Geoff , Neil and myself should have an eight hour start before anybody else is allowed to detect  ;D  ;D


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: probono on April 08, 2014, 06:47:48 AM

Chef did say that it was unusual to get that type of brooch in Somerset Probono, I think he said he's only seen the two, so I was a happy bunny :)  Hope your find was a bit more complete...


Mine was complete with pin (only brooch I've had with a pin) - there was a tread on here last year some time (if I can find it!)

I'll have a look at your other romans shortly :)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: probono on April 08, 2014, 06:50:13 AM
Hello all can any one id the Denari I found Antonius I can't seem to match it to any of his coins thanks

There are several 'Antoninus' - yours is 'Elagabalus', (if I am remembering correctly) - and has a reverse that doesn't go with the obverse, so it's a hybrid - i.e something knocked up by one of the locals...


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 08, 2014, 07:45:43 AM
Wayno I can't remember the coin showing any sign of being debased silver so I wouldn't wholly go along with " something knocked up by one of the locals..." but this is basically yours or a version of it ;) http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/sear5/s7529.html (http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/sear5/s7529.html)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: dances with badgers on April 08, 2014, 07:47:59 AM
i had to attend these rallies because im starting my summer job soon an i will be working crazy hrs and 7 days a week.im glad i did .catch you at the end of the summer guys


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 08, 2014, 07:54:29 AM
OK guys we've got a couple of months to fill our boots before he gets back ;D


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: dances with badgers on April 08, 2014, 07:57:16 AM
lol :)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: monkeymad on April 08, 2014, 07:59:03 AM
Looks like you all had a great day. Some lovely finds been made. Hopefully I shall attend the next one again.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Radnor Bandit (Ian) on April 08, 2014, 10:32:25 AM
As usual , had a great day with good company, the folded cap badge was mine, I did manage to straighten it and it reads W A A C. A bit of googling came up with Womans Army Auxilary Corps, an american regiment.
Thanks again for all at DW for getting this site and will look forward to returning next year.

p.s The damaged beehive thimble is very similar to the one I found the week before and dates to about the 13thC


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Dungbeetle on April 08, 2014, 11:13:51 AM
As usual , had a great day with good company, the folded cap badge was mine, I did manage to straighten it and it reads W A A C. A bit of googling came up with Womans Army Auxilary Corps, an american regiment.
Thanks again for all at DW for getting this site and will look forward to returning next year.

p.s The damaged beehive thimble is very similar to the one I found the week before and dates to about the 13thC
I think you might find that the cap badge is British from WW1 .I found one a while back apparently the women were recruited as clerks, cooks, drivers etc to release more men to go to the front.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Radnor Bandit (Ian) on April 08, 2014, 11:53:25 AM
[[/quote] I think you might find that the cap badge is British from WW1 .I found one a while back apparently the women were recruited as clerks, cooks, drivers etc to release more men to go to the front.
[/quote]

Thanks for the info,
I've done a bit more digging and realised that I had got the info mixed up with the american unit and you are right its the WW1 regiment. :-[ :-[ :-[


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: stever on April 08, 2014, 11:59:04 AM
nice badge I love finding military stuff looks like it was a very successful rally :)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: welsh john on April 08, 2014, 03:01:29 PM
Great rally report Neil,

I've still to find my first Roman or Hammered coins but I did find some nice things:

a George 111 irish penny

a piece of napped flint

a copper two looped copper piece I think it had three loops and one as broken off?

 what I think is a belt or strap end

and two more copper coins that are to baddly worn to ID

looking foreward to the next rally and who knows I may find my first hammy/Roman there.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 08, 2014, 03:18:50 PM
Well done John, your copper with loops is the side piece from a spur 17-18thC ;)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: welsh john on April 08, 2014, 03:35:14 PM
Hi Chef,
thank you for the info,how you can tell what it is from a piece that small fair play to you.

Whats your thoughts on the belt /strap end do you agree with me thats what it is?


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: colin on April 08, 2014, 04:08:01 PM
great report as usual neil and well done to the land finders came up trumps again
i am having a good run at the moment  ;)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: HAMMERRHOID on April 08, 2014, 06:38:27 PM
Here are my finds from the Moorlinch When in Rome rally can anyone I.D the Romans and the Cut/Quarter as I am not much of it I.D ing coins  :)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: HAMMERRHOID on April 08, 2014, 06:43:47 PM
And here is the rest of my finds.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: HAMMERRHOID on April 08, 2014, 06:44:39 PM
Finally.


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 08, 2014, 06:54:24 PM
Very nice Hammerrhoid the quarter is Henry III, I still like the breaches buckle very nice and how weird to come all the way over here and find a Monmouthshire regiment collar badge ;D


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: HAMMERRHOID on April 08, 2014, 07:33:31 PM
Very nice Hammerrhoid the quarter is Henry III, I still like the breaches buckle very nice and how weird to come all the way over here and find a Monmouthshire regiment collar badge ;D
Thanks Chef for the I.D I showed Neil the army badge and I believe another army badge was found thanks again for the I.Ds  ;) 


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: welsh john on April 08, 2014, 07:40:09 PM
Very nice Hammerrhoid the quarter is Henry III, I still like the breaches buckle very nice and how weird to come all the way over here and find a Monmouthshire regiment collar badge ;D
It is the Monmouthshire regt but it's a cap badge the long pin at the back slides into a sleeve in the beret


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: legio11augustus on April 08, 2014, 08:23:54 PM
great right up , and a well organised rally ..........pretty embarassing for me ( with my dw user name)as people where plucking roman coins to the left and right of me ,but alas i didnt find any ......but .missmaggs  was chuffed on breaking her roman duck ,and kindly told me every 5 mins on the journey home  ;D... 


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: probono on April 09, 2014, 06:49:01 AM
Hammeroid - your coin is a reduced follis of Licinius I, I'm pretty sure the reverse is GENIO POP ROM - the mint mark looks a little odd, but is most likely the first workshop at Trier, and dates to ~315AD


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: HAMMERRHOID on April 09, 2014, 05:35:53 PM
Hammeroid - your coin is a reduced follis of Licinius I, I'm pretty sure the reverse is GENIO POP ROM - the mint mark looks a little odd, but is most likely the first workshop at Trier, and dates to ~315AD
Thank you for your I.D it is really appreciated  :) 


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: whosyouruncle on April 12, 2014, 07:16:34 PM
Flaming good write up Neil.
As I haven't been on a dig yet ,will keep this one in mind. :)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: SpineyDave on April 13, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
Just got round to sorting out the finds bag from the rally, and here are the only bits I could find of interest.
The coin I thought was blank but after a bit of a wash and if you tilt it to catch the light it does look like a head !


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: dances with badgers on April 13, 2014, 02:55:38 PM
check the conk on him lol.nice  ;)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: SpineyDave on April 13, 2014, 04:10:16 PM
Is that what you call a Roman nose ???  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Da Monkey on April 14, 2014, 02:54:38 PM
Blessed are the Big Noses !

Never found anything....  Pahhh   ...  ;)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Dale on April 14, 2014, 05:12:37 PM
Its looks a unusual one, does anyone know who the emperor is?


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Chef Geoff on April 14, 2014, 05:19:39 PM
The only one that I know of that has a conk like that is Nerva but there could be loads I guess. Going by the corrosion and the hint of a "crown" is it a Dupondius ?


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Dale on April 14, 2014, 05:25:54 PM
The only one that I know of that has a conk like that is Nerva but there could be loads I guess. Going by the corrosion and the hint of a "crown" is it a Dupondius ?

Yepppppppp Nerva looks a good match, fair play ;)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: handyman [Alan} on April 14, 2014, 06:41:11 PM
yep, i agree with Nerva.

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/nerva/i.html (http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/nerva/i.html)

an interesting emperor  94 to 96Ad, lived to quite an old age for the time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerva)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Soft top on May 02, 2014, 05:31:07 PM
Late addition folks , chucked this aside came up looking exactly like 2p, recently scraped off hard crusty soil and underneath was this, which I think is a brass rose orb jetton , c 1550 to 1650, therefor I think, a worthy addition to all the other nice finds, correct me if I,m wrong anybody. I found it in field 2. 


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Da Monkey on May 02, 2014, 07:52:05 PM
Beautiful find :)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Dryland on May 02, 2014, 07:58:39 PM
Well done Soft top.Thats a cracker


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: bristolminelab on May 02, 2014, 08:05:06 PM
Nice one ;)


Title: Re: Detecting Wales Rally 75 - When in Rome . . .
Post by: Soft top on May 02, 2014, 10:19:08 PM
Thanks for the comments guys , the coin is a brass colour it came out looking silver on the photograph, were there any other jettons found?   Not sure what the writing means or what the symbols are, any jetton experts on DW ?    thanks .


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