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Title: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: jayhay69 on June 17, 2011, 01:13:18 PM A FEW FINDS FROM OUR NEW (HAMMERED) FARM MY THIRD SEAL LOADS OF BLOODY BUTTONS LOL
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/jayhay69/2011_06170033.jpg) (http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/jayhay69/2011_06170034.jpg) (http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/jayhay69/2011_06170043.jpg) (http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/jayhay69/2011_06170046.jpg) Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: nfl on June 17, 2011, 01:37:53 PM i like the seal i have 1 similar,there well worth cleaning up,give it your flo for a translation,i did mine and when the lady from hereford museum seen it she asked if i would sell it to them as its better than the 1 they had lol,,, ive still got it.
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: handyman [Alan} on June 17, 2011, 01:48:22 PM lovely seal mate
i found one similar last year, you can read about it on http://www.detectingwales.com/index.php?topic=10136.0 (http://www.detectingwales.com/index.php?topic=10136.0) the doc identified it as "It's circa 14th century, and a 'stock' seal rather than a personal seal. It reads PRIVE SV (Old French = Private). A bird seems to be a typical motif on these, I'm not sure if it's known why. The design of this one is similar: http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=7688&cat=44 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=7688&cat=44) Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: rjm on June 17, 2011, 03:39:21 PM Your detector seems stuck on the "button" setting ! ;D Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: jaydogg on June 17, 2011, 04:44:51 PM Nice medieval seal: have you tried making an impression with it yet? It's a pity it's missing the suspension part. My brother also found one very similar last year.
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: jayhay69 on June 17, 2011, 05:09:53 PM its the second of that (chess) style ive found also found a Vassica matrix seal aswell :)
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: zedex82 on June 17, 2011, 06:31:23 PM Nice find!!
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: tyna on June 17, 2011, 06:58:17 PM Where there are buttons there are...................????
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: Rob Two Spades on June 17, 2011, 07:54:21 PM Very nice seal !! Yeah it was a buttonfest at the new farm yesterday, I got over 20 buttons in a day! Here are mine, plus a few more bits. I've never dug so many holes. in a day.
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: jayhay69 on June 17, 2011, 07:59:09 PM what was the half a coin mate?
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: jayhay69 on June 17, 2011, 09:14:03 PM that thing at the bottom i thought was a sword holder looks like this
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=23792&cat=all (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=23792&cat=all) Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: Rob Two Spades on June 17, 2011, 09:51:53 PM half coin was not readable but the halfpenny in the photo is George 1st. My oldest halfpenny :) Probably 1717
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: Neil on June 18, 2011, 09:00:34 AM Lovely seal Jayhay - congratulations. You've probably already done this, but press him into some wax or bluetac so you can read the inscription clearly. You can buy red seal wax on ebay really cheaply.
Great find Neil Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: simon c on June 18, 2011, 09:30:09 AM Lovely seal, i don't think the half penny is George 1st,From the letters to the left it looks like GV (William) and the letters on the right RI (Maria) ? the bust looks like to heads as well so it could be a William and Mary half penny or farthing ?,not a 100% sure but it will be about 1694 if it is. :)
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: Chef Geoff on June 18, 2011, 09:39:46 AM Top marks Simon, do you know when I first looked at this post yesterday, I thought that it was a funny colour for a George and more like a William but didn't question it. I'm glad your on the ball.
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: simon c on June 18, 2011, 09:49:18 AM Thanks Geoff,yes i thought i was seeing things too lol,The colour could be down to it being Bronze rather than copper ? Nice find Rob :)
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: Rob Two Spades on June 18, 2011, 01:23:45 PM Thanks, I hadnt seen the GV, actually after closer look, and seeing the other side its could well be a William about 1697. Its an RT not RI and the R is quite high up.
http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/pics/halfp.html#w3 (http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/pics/halfp.html#w3) Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: Rob Two Spades on June 19, 2011, 03:18:27 PM Some more finds on our hammy field in Denbighshire this morning.
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: jayhay69 on June 19, 2011, 03:56:55 PM i think its a lizzie groat or half groat depending on size nice find mate :)
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: Rob Two Spades on June 19, 2011, 04:23:16 PM Thanks. Its 20mm across
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: jayhay69 on June 19, 2011, 04:37:01 PM any chance of a pic of the otherside mate?
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: Rob Two Spades on June 19, 2011, 04:50:20 PM not much on the reverse. The viccy was 1863, really good condition.
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: jayhay69 on June 19, 2011, 04:52:44 PM what about the lead thing any marks on that?
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: Rob Two Spades on June 19, 2011, 04:57:39 PM not cleaned the lead thing. looks to have a pressed shape near the top of the pic., also the rim groove isnt all the way round.
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: jayhay69 on June 19, 2011, 04:59:24 PM is it raining up there?
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: Rob Two Spades on June 19, 2011, 05:06:09 PM no its sunny.
what do you think the fastener is? Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: jayhay69 on June 19, 2011, 05:25:07 PM http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=25792&cat=176 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=25792&cat=176)
http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=17628&cat=176 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=17628&cat=176) http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=15857&cat=176 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=15857&cat=176) i think its a half a Buckle mate Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: Rob Two Spades on June 19, 2011, 06:06:59 PM Yes it does look like half has snapped off. BTW the far field (next to the pasture field you checked out on Thurs)looks good. Its got some black cows on it but its similar to the hammy field. I tried out the field before it, got the viccy and some buttons.
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: jayhay69 on June 19, 2011, 06:21:23 PM we`ll have a go on that tuesday then were the cows good or annoying :)
Title: Re: my finds 16/06/2011 SEAL!! Post by: Rob Two Spades on June 19, 2011, 07:14:46 PM the cows were friendly, a bit of hoof stomping and snorting but ok.
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