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Title: minelab explorer se
Post by: minelab turbo on November 19, 2013, 02:10:16 PM
Hi all im a newby. Just got a explorer se and just wondering if any1 got any advice on setup.  Had 4 a few weeks now and only had it on factory settings. Read the book but goes straight out of my head mins later. Any suggestions would be great thanks


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 19, 2013, 02:35:02 PM
Welcome to DW Turbo ;)
There is more than one way to skin a cat so they say and equally there are several settings that people use with the Explorer but this is about the most common and in my mind the best ;)

Volume- max
Volume gain- 8 or 9
Threshold tone- 1
Variability- 10
Limits- 9
Response- smooth
Sounds- conduct
Recover- deep on : fast off
Iron mask- open.
Sensitivity-manual and as high as you can get it, try not to drop below 18. if using auto, set at max as machine will use this as it's possible highest setting.

Any problems just shout ;)


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: MuckMan on November 19, 2013, 06:39:48 PM
Welcome to forum Turbo  :)

Chef will these settings work the Explorer 2?


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Dryland on November 19, 2013, 06:46:29 PM
Welcome to the D W Forum Turbo


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: melonhead on November 19, 2013, 08:04:29 PM
and i find it usefull to noise cancel after start up definatley if on a rally or pylons near by


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 19, 2013, 08:20:40 PM
Welcome to forum Turbo  :)

Chef will these settings work the Explorer 2?

Yes but instead of smooth response, use "tones 3"


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: MuckMan on November 19, 2013, 08:38:10 PM
Thanks Chef, I'll give these settings a go  :) I've had my explorer11 for a while now but still get a bit confused by all the different progams/settings.


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: minelab turbo on November 19, 2013, 09:08:53 PM
Thanks chef will give it a go setting it up.


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: outlaw on November 19, 2013, 09:41:24 PM
Welcome to DW Turbo ;)
There is more than one way to skin a cat so they say and equally there are several settings that people use with the Explorer but this is about the most common and in my mind the best ;)

Volume- max
Volume gain- 8 or 9
Threshold tone- 1
Variability- 10
Limits- 9
Response- smooth
Sounds- conduct
Recover- deep on : fast off
Iron mask- open.
Sensitivity-manual and as high as you can get it, try not to drop below 18. if using auto, set at max as machine will use this as it's possible highest setting.

Any problems just shout ;)
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I have been using an se for a very long time as youre a beginner i would set it up as chef has suggested, but would lower sensitivity to about 14 until you get used to the sounds, then and only when you feel confident up the sensitivity up too 20 +, back off if it becomes too noisy., try placing different metals  such as leadd a silver coin, 20p coin,  bottle top piece of tin,horse shoe etc on top of ground and listen to the tones. Dig all 2way signals and you will soon learn the rubbish high tones as to the low tones (in conduct) that are good targets, try and detect using more so the ears rather than the display. If you use the display the manual explains the cross hair and its movements. Most importanbt of all, is a low and slow sweep. pm me if you need any further help. ;D


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: minelab turbo on November 19, 2013, 09:48:12 PM
Hi chef when u say iron mask open u mean iron mask on. I think I done all the other settings u said and saved it. So when I switch it on next time just load that setting and turn iron mask on n turn up sensitivity high up n way to go


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 19, 2013, 09:57:39 PM
Sorry, I meant open screen ie no disc on iron mask and load the nail pattern in to the normal smart screen.
As Outlaw has said you may get a little confused by all the noise and if you do then as he say's turn your sens down though I wouldn't drop below 18 but you could drop you Audio Gain down to 7 which will quieten things down too, in fact the only two controls you will ever really adjust are the sens and the gain ;)


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 19, 2013, 10:12:02 PM
Have you managed to download the SE emulator? if not you can download it here;
http://explorer2.free.fr/download.html (http://explorer2.free.fr/download.html)

It's no substitute for learning in the field but it can be useful in showing how each of the controls effect the machine ;)


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Dryland on November 19, 2013, 10:20:48 PM
You might find that your detector sounds like a pig squealing as though it's being mounted from behind by a rhino, but you'll get used to it  ;D ;D


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: handyman [Alan} on November 19, 2013, 10:29:48 PM
You might find that your detector sounds like a pig squealing as though it's being mounted from behind by a rhino, but you'll get used to it  ;D ;D

Oh Dylan ... what a thought ... it reminded me  immediately of the film Deliverance!! 


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: minelab turbo on November 19, 2013, 10:30:06 PM
Thanks all great help thanks again


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: minelab turbo on November 20, 2013, 12:05:29 PM
Thinking of getting some wireless headphones any suggestions for my se


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 20, 2013, 12:23:00 PM
Unfortunately (or not lol) there are none that work well with FBS machines because of the sound wave pattern they use ;)


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: minelab turbo on November 20, 2013, 12:26:51 PM
Ok thanks chef read about some n the say they lag


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 20, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
They would be bluetooth and they lag on all machines, the problem with FBS is that transmitters can't replicate the tones from the machine ;)


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Swifty64 on November 21, 2013, 06:21:38 PM
Sorry, I meant open screen ie no disc on iron mask and load the nail pattern in to the normal smart screen.
As Outlaw has said you may get a little confused by all the noise and if you do then as he say's turn your sens down though I wouldn't drop below 18 but you could drop you Audio Gain down to 7 which will quieten things down too, in fact the only two controls you will ever really adjust are the sens and the gain


Hi Chef when you say "no disc on iron" mask do you mean -16 ....ie no iron mask ?.and "load nail patern" does that mean clear the smart screen then choose nails .reject ?

cheers

swifty


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 21, 2013, 06:45:04 PM
Hi Swifty
-16 om the XS and II, AM or 32 on the SE, and yes just nails rejected ;)


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Swifty64 on November 21, 2013, 06:52:14 PM
Hi Swifty
-16 om the XS and II, AM or 32 on the SE, and yes just nails rejected ;)

cheers chef....explorer 11 and 10x12 SEF coil is my weapon of choice....gonna try your program at the weekend.

thanks


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 21, 2013, 06:56:33 PM
if you're using the 10x12 SEF change recovery to both fast and deep OFF. it seems to give the explorer a bit more sensitivity to really low conductors.
Let us know how you get on ;)


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: outlaw on November 21, 2013, 07:21:52 PM
The main ingredient is the soil, if the mineralisation is high, it wouldnt matter if you're an expert or a novice, we all have to reduce the sensitivity to a working sound level that is comfortable.

Dont be afraid to reduce the sensitivity, I have been on sites at a level of 9 and have pulled out some fantastic roman artefacts.

Though on the whole I detect in sensitivity range between 24 - 27, with gain set between 7 and 10. dependant on the ground noise I am prepared to tolerate. Dont be taken in by people telling you to max out all the settings.

When you are detecting, steer clear of electric pylons and farmers electric fences ! Practice and more practice is the only way to learn this machine, if things are quiet up the sensitivity and gain until it becomes noisey then back it off a little.

Walk before running, the se pro is an excellent detector.  ;D


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Swifty64 on November 29, 2013, 04:24:12 PM
if you're using the 10x12 SEF change recovery to both fast and deep OFF. it seems to give the explorer a bit more sensitivity to really low conductors.
Let us know how you get on ;)

Hi Geoff, found this lovely seal sunday ..... i would like to say it was using your program as per the convo above but i had reverted to my old program when i found this. ::) ::)
was a tad noisey on the program you gave me but will have another go on sunday

thanks

Dennis
 


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 29, 2013, 04:35:10 PM
Wow! Dennis what a cracker :o
Yes it can be a noisy brute of a program but you will get used to it and don't be scared to turn it all down a bit if needs be. ;)


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Dryland on November 29, 2013, 06:16:08 PM
Nice one Swifty, thats a beauty


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: minelab turbo on December 06, 2013, 02:11:56 PM
Hi chef how do u load nail pattern onto the front screen as u told me to do


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: Chef Geoff on December 06, 2013, 03:13:43 PM
Just go; Menu-Select, then press "Clear" then scroll down to "Nails" and put an X next to it. And that's it you're ;) good to go


Title: Re: minelab explorer se
Post by: minelab turbo on December 06, 2013, 10:06:10 PM
Thanks again chef


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