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Title: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 17, 2011, 06:08:34 PM
Managed a few more hours detecting today, on the same fields that Mark, Al and I were on the other day. I went there more in the hope of finding Mark's minelab digger, which he lost towards the end of Tuesdays session, but no sign of it as yet.
I did however claw back some credibility on the coin front after not having a sniff of one on Tuesday. Only a Georgian and two Roman grots, but hey beggars can't be choosers.
I also found a 17thC powder measure, unfortunately these usually come out folded flat and this one was no different, but it adds more weight to the idea that this field saw some "unpleasantness" during the Civil War.
And then a signal that nearly took my head off, so much so that I thought it was iron. From only 3" or so came a gold posy/wedding ring, complete with inscription. The style of the writing looks more 18thC than really old but still a nice find. It has no hallmarks but it's a very light coloured gold so I think it could be of a lower karat.
What has got me foxed is the inscription ??? I know it says "I LIKE MY" but no matter how much I look at it  I'll be damned if I can work out what they liked :D
So if anyone can work it out please, please tell me ;)

(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chef_02/ring3.jpg)


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Pipster on November 17, 2011, 06:14:43 PM
Well done Geoff ... ;) What a feeling turning over the clod and seeing the tinge of yellow  ;) ;) Like you I can't make out the inscription , But a super lump of gold ...  ;)


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: beachboy (viv) on November 17, 2011, 06:16:56 PM
Geoff,well done you have found a very interesting field there and a lot more stuff to come,looking forward to see what the writing Say's.viv


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: rjm on November 17, 2011, 06:23:21 PM


Beautiful find.

Is it saying, in olde Englishe..........

           "I like my choyce" ?


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Jassy on November 17, 2011, 06:24:18 PM
wow geoff!! lovely!


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 17, 2011, 06:26:43 PM


Beautiful find.

Is it saying, in olde Englishe..........

           "I like my choyce" ?

Hey Bob I don't know if your right, but you could definitely be heading in the right direction with that ;)


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Roman (Ray) on November 17, 2011, 06:27:00 PM
lovely finds cheffy..beauty of a ring mate.welldone indeed mate.
raymondo


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on November 17, 2011, 06:29:04 PM
Theres an old English saying that goes @I like my choice not to repent


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Radnor Bandit (Ian) on November 17, 2011, 06:31:45 PM
lovely ring Geoff ,It does looks like " I like my choice" . the final "e" looks like the engraver has slipped .
This was a popular inscription and with limited education at the time it would have most likely been spelt phonetically.
I saw one recently and the inscription read "Kepe Faith" ( a reference to a biblical passage)
At the moment Posey rings are very popular with the american collectors and are becoming quite valuble, I would get someone to look at it as It may be worth insuring.


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 17, 2011, 06:35:35 PM
Cheers Rob and Ian. Yes, Bob is the star of the show, well done. just looked on PAS database and that saying as Ian says is a relatively common inscription.


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Napoleon on November 17, 2011, 06:43:07 PM
velldone Geoff , nice finds there.Nap


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: avalon on November 17, 2011, 06:53:10 PM
I agree with Bob, the word is choice.


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: nfl on November 17, 2011, 07:03:10 PM
nice finds,,im impressed how you take pics of inside of ring,,,,i could do with some pointers in  photography  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Val Beechey on November 17, 2011, 07:06:38 PM
Geoff, as usual, always delivers the goods with an interesting read.
Lovely ring Geoff, I'm quite jealous.

Val



Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: jtalbot0001 on November 17, 2011, 08:11:54 PM
Those are fantastic finds Geoff, you must have had the biggist grin ever when you dug that ring up! Before I even read the posts I already realised it said "Choyc(e)?". It's written in very old English, written how it sounded, I collect Postal History dating back to Elizabethan times and so am quite used to reading this type of English. And if I was basing the style of the text in combination of spelling, in comparison to the many letters I have, I would say it dates more to 1680-1710, with my guess in 1690's. But that's just my opinion. A very nice ring indeed!


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 17, 2011, 08:21:30 PM
Thanks Jon that's a great bot of info (wish you'd said 1712 though lol) the field is only 5 acres and this will be the third treasure case from it.


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: jtalbot0001 on November 17, 2011, 08:28:44 PM
LOL. Sorry Geoff, I actually forgot about the 300 year rule. I'm certain it will get back to you regardless of date and if Treasure or not! Just hope it goes through the system quickly for you! 3 treasure finds in one field, amazing, funny how one field has them all in one!!


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 17, 2011, 08:40:10 PM
LOL. Sorry Geoff, I actually forgot about the 300 year rule. I'm certain it will get back to you regardless of date and if Treasure or not! Just hope it goes through the system quickly for you! 3 treasure finds in one field, amazing, funny how one field has them all in one!!
My last ring took 14 months :'(


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: jtalbot0001 on November 17, 2011, 08:47:42 PM
That's depressing news, that means I got to wait at least another 6 months for my Axe Heads.


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Villan (Neil) on November 17, 2011, 09:40:11 PM
That's a fantastic find Geoff,congratulations buddy,you must be delighted ;)


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: avalon on November 17, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
Very similar to this ring Geoff.

http://www.medieval-rings.com/inventory_description_rings.php?evt=&req=YTozOntzOjEwOiJyaW5nX2FyY2hpIjthOjI6e2k6MDtpOjA7aToxO3M6MToiPSI7fXM6MTI6InJpbmdfcHJpdmF0ZSI7YToyOntpOjA7aTowO2k6MTtzOjE6Ij0iO31zOjEyOiJyaW5nX29mZmxpbmUiO2E6Mjp7aTowO2k6MDtpOjE7czoxOiI9Ijt9fQ%3D%3D&rings_id=407&selimage=ring_mpic1 (http://www.medieval-rings.com/inventory_description_rings.php?evt=&req=YTozOntzOjEwOiJyaW5nX2FyY2hpIjthOjI6e2k6MDtpOjA7aToxO3M6MToiPSI7fXM6MTI6InJpbmdfcHJpdmF0ZSI7YToyOntpOjA7aTowO2k6MTtzOjE6Ij0iO31zOjEyOiJyaW5nX29mZmxpbmUiO2E6Mjp7aTowO2k6MDtpOjE7czoxOiI9Ijt9fQ%3D%3D&rings_id=407&selimage=ring_mpic1)


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 17, 2011, 11:03:07 PM
Thanks Steve, the States does seem the place where they fetch the money, though I think that price is somewhat tongue in cheek.
Unfortunately this one is low grade gold and a bit squashed which won't help.


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: staterchaser on November 17, 2011, 11:27:41 PM
A lovely find, well done!


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Val Beechey on November 17, 2011, 11:42:23 PM
Looks like you've got a winner there Geoff. ;D
Hope you don't mind me butting in on your post but looking at Steves' link I noticed a ring (the only one I've seen so far) very similar to the one I found.
Top right hand corner of Home Page, the one thats like a 3d piece. Only difference is mine hasn't got a stone or a bit attached to it for a stone.
Any idea what sort of age that one might be.???

Val

Thanks Geoff. :)


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 18, 2011, 12:54:54 AM
Not to sure what yours looks like but here are a few Octagonal rings;

(http://finds.org.uk/images/thumbnails/301170.jpg)<acronym title="The Portable Antiquities Scheme">PAS</acronym> record number: NLM-A22FA3

Object type: Finger ring

Broadperiod: Roman

County of discovery: North Lincolnshire


(http://finds.org.uk/images/thumbnails/341675.jpg)<acronym title="The Portable Antiquities Scheme">PAS</acronym> record number: WILT-BC8C71

Object type: Finger ring

Broadperiod: Roman

County of discovery: Wiltshire


(http://finds.org.uk/images/thumbnails/308927.jpg)(http://finds.org.uk/images/thumbnails/308928.jpg)<acronym title="The Portable Antiquities Scheme">PAS</acronym> record number: NARC-EC8B41

Object type: Finger ring

Broadperiod: Modern

County of discovery: Northamptonshire


(http://finds.org.uk/images/thumbnails/194357.jpg)<acronym title="The Portable Antiquities Scheme">PAS</acronym> record number: IOW-6A52C5

Object type: Finger ring

Broadperiod: Roman

County of discovery: Isle Of Wight


(http://finds.org.uk/images/thumbnails/186400.jpg)<acronym title="The Portable Antiquities Scheme">PAS</acronym> record number: HAMP-D47894

Object type: Finger ring

Broadperiod: Roman

County of discovery: Hampshire


(http://finds.org.uk/images/thumbnails/155686.jpg)<acronym title="The Portable Antiquities Scheme">PAS</acronym> record number: LANCUM-F35852

Object type: Finger ring

Broadperiod: Roman

County of discovery: Gloucestershire



And there are a lot more, apart from one modern they are all Roman. The patina should give the game away Val, any chance of popping it up again?

PS. a belated "nice find" ;)


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: DEADLOCK on November 18, 2011, 08:05:16 AM
Stunning finds geoff and the ring is lovely well found did come from by by the spring


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Val Beechey on November 18, 2011, 09:36:46 AM
Now I'm having HOT FLUSHES. :o

The picis I've got aren't that good. I'll try to get a better one. Thanks Geoff.

Val


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Val Beechey on November 18, 2011, 09:58:19 AM
There you go Geoff.  Not a bad pici but not brilliant.

On closer inspection I can see one main difference.  All the rings you picked out have 8 facets. Mine has 12. I also have to admit to a 'certain amount' of cleaning. It never occurred to me that it might be of any great age and it was dark brown to black when I found it in a copse of very old Oaks with very wet to boggy ground.

What do you think ??  Should I start swooning. ;D

Val


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: colin on November 18, 2011, 02:26:01 PM
Great find Geoff think the older ones are spelt choyce Dai 1952 a site member found one 2 years ago spelt choice and his is still going through the treasure process,if I can find a pic of it I will post it for you to have a look  ;)


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: colin on November 18, 2011, 02:47:55 PM
here it is geoff didnt have a pic on my laptop but i still got the picture on paper from the museum off mark lodwick,he wont see that ring again the value will be split between dai and the farmer ;) 


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Chef Geoff on November 18, 2011, 03:07:53 PM
Nice one Colin, has that one been ruled on as treasure? all but one of the ones on PAS have been returned as not proven over 300 years and they all have the older CHOYCE spelling ???


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: colin on November 18, 2011, 03:29:52 PM
They did rule it as treasure geoff,think it's close to the valuation now can't believe it's taken so long Dai 1952 not happy about it .shocked the ring with choyce inscription is not treasure ;)


Title: Re: Help! I can't read it.
Post by: Meatslicer on November 18, 2011, 11:36:50 PM
looks like gyorgey to me, someone liked george?


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