Minelab safari , explorer se pro and etrac and beach depth question

[chantalpoole]

Hi all ,
I have used a safari for quite a long time and quite frankly i loved it .I learned the sounds and i wouldnt have changed for the world until.....
My son who is 12 has decided he also loves my safari.
Now i have reluctently given him my safari and im looking at either getting another safari, a se pro or an etrac.
My question to anyone who has tried the safari and either the se pro or the etrac is ....
did you find any increase or decrease in depth on the beach between the models ??
I know the se pro and safari use the same stock coils .
I love beach detecting so for me to upgrade from a safari to an se pro or etrac there would have to be a significant increase in depth detection on saltwater beaches as i do 80% of my detecting on wet and dry sand.

[dances with badgers]

etrac with 13'' ultimate coil hard to beat unless you got a sovereign with 15'' wot coil

[matthewbullingham123]

etrac with 13'' ultimate coil hard to beat unless you got a sovereign with 15'' wot coil

Etrac or explore se with ultimate coil very hard to beat ! Unless a pi but then you have no discrimination.

[chantalpoole]

sovereign is a great machine but i still like the coddling that a lcd screen gives me when pinpointing and occasionally iding the target .Also i forgot to ask if the id sounds are the same for the explorer and etrac as they are for the safari , does iron still grunt and silver sound like a flute in all metal mode ?

[dances with badgers]

i would not recomend getting a p.i lol.they are hard work and the only ones i can see worth getting are the top off the range ones like the deepstars.
 my sovereign is deeper than a surfmaster p.i  /goldscan p i

[matthewbullingham123]

sovereign is a great machine but i still like the coddling that a lcd screen gives me when pinpointing and occasionally iding the target .Also i forgot to ask if the id sounds are the same for the explorer and etrac as they are for the safari , does iron still grunt and silver sound like a flute in all metal mode ?

Yeah if you click on ferrous mode i use that setting on beach and find it great, on land the Conduct tones is ment to be better .

[chantalpoole]

i wouldnt get a pi ,the extra digging  would not be worth the extra depth .i love using fbs i like the stability .
are the ultimate coils much better than the 11 inch pro stock coils that come with the safari?

[dances with badgers]

iron tends to give a grunty signal whatever machine or mode you use i find

[dances with badgers]

i have only two beaches that i would prefer to use a p.i on cos they are clean

[matthewbullingham123]

i wouldnt get a pi ,the extra digging  would not be worth the extra depth .i love using fbs i like the stability .
are the ultimate coils much better than the 11 inch pro stock coils that come with the safari?

The stability of the ultimate is great and depth is more than deep enough , Couldn't really compare about the pro coil as never used one , but the normal 10 inch coil for explorer xs and se has nothing on the ultimate

[dances with badgers]

ultimate coil all the way if your getting safari/etrac/explorer.
 i have hit a 1.5gm very thin wedding band at 12'' with an etrac an ultimate coil.

[chantalpoole]

i think pi would be great on top of an ancient monument lol or in a field that has been under pasture for 100s of years
i know a couple of beaches that pi would have a detectorist screaming for mercy and throwing his machine in the sea. Theres a beach called tresaith down near me and its covered in tiny  nails which show on the safari as -10 with high pitched squeal and shows the 2 nail signs next to the id its most strange !!
i know of a tiny beach in west wales that is really clean and iv had some great finds of copper and silver coins ,silver rings and a watch but no gold.i dont think anyone has ever detected it as iv found silver sixpences iv dug up with my foot
i find using all metal in ferrous gives me that extra inch in wet sand  over conductive settings,
im sure there is gold on the beach but i think its just an inch or two beyond my safari so maybe a better coil might help me ?

[dances with badgers]

have you ever used a p.i lol

[chantalpoole]

my friend had a whites surf (i might be wrong and if so i apologise) but i think it was a pi machine
and he was always bent over digging
the local council should have paid him he did a great job cleaning the beach
saying that he did find some good stuff

[dances with badgers]

you spend so much time digging rubbish that some guy with an fbs machine will have picked up 3 rings in the time you get 1 lol