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Title: Coin ID
Post by: SimonH on December 22, 2009, 11:48:17 AM
**UPDATE** THIS COIN WAS FROM A KNOWN FAKE EBAY SELLER SO PLEASE IGNORE

Can anyone ID this for a friend of a friend of mine.  I know nothing about its origin, or if its even a fake  ???

Its 9mm in size



Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: handyman [Alan} on December 22, 2009, 11:51:39 AM
nice find - i hope your friend will/has recorded it with their Finds Liaison officer.


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: SimonH on December 22, 2009, 11:57:04 AM
Its not a recent find,  from what I know of it,  its been bought described it as a "hammered gold coin" for the price of £30  :-\


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: handyman [Alan} on December 22, 2009, 12:03:28 PM
by the look of it, its a celtic 'gold' stater -- but they sell for well into the hundreds!

the price worries me - why so cheap?

well worth asking and recording it with the FLO anyway, even if the findspot is not known


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: SimonH on December 22, 2009, 12:13:52 PM
This is why I want to know more, I'll get it from him and get Mark Lodwick to have a look at it.


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: 150aceboy on December 22, 2009, 12:18:06 PM
Looks like a Gold Stator to me mate, if it's genuine it could be worth a lot of money, your mate had a bargain there Simon  ;)


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: Chef Geoff on December 22, 2009, 12:26:14 PM
Was it bought from Ebay? if so a lot of them, when not fake are coming in from eastern Europe. Without lineage an FLO should not record it.


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: SimonH on December 22, 2009, 04:13:22 PM
Ive since found out yes it was bought on ebay and asked who he bought it from, I checked the list of known fake coin sellers and that seller on the list  :-\

He had not paid for the item yet so I told him to email him and explain that hes on the fake list and cancel auction.



Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: handyman [Alan} on December 22, 2009, 04:29:25 PM
excellent research and very well done indeed simon for finding the excellent links.

i've spent an hour checking through spink and other books for the design - and have yet to find a similar match.

glad to hear that your friend has yet to part with any money... he owes u a pint at least!

cheers


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 22, 2009, 04:30:58 PM
thats no stater it is gold for sure and not fake its a indan fanam 1754---1759 hope this helps  ;)


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: handyman [Alan} on December 22, 2009, 04:33:34 PM
have u got a link for that please phil -- i'd like to have a look and add it to database please.

cheers


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 22, 2009, 04:37:37 PM
no sorry alan if you go on ebay under anceint gold coins there are a number of them on there £20 buy it now they come in all shapes and sizes i knew what it was as soon as i seen it not a fake mate  ;)


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: handyman [Alan} on December 22, 2009, 04:39:33 PM
cheers phil

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/ancientcoinscanada/store/listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=141 (http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/ancientcoinscanada/store/listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=141)


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 22, 2009, 04:40:33 PM
ill see if i can find a link for it im not that good on the old p c  :-[  :'(


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: SimonH on December 22, 2009, 04:50:41 PM
Well done Phil for the ID  :-* , the coin was being sold under "Coins > British > Hammered > Celtic Coins (c.100bc - c.100AD)"

So even if its not a fake hes not going to buy it on the grouds of a misleading sale.


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 22, 2009, 04:51:24 PM
dont know if this will work but here gos  :-\


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: handyman [Alan} on December 22, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
thx phil -- an interesting link.

simon - make sure your friend reports it to the ebay fraud team.

cheers



Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 22, 2009, 04:59:33 PM
do it work  ??? it will be a first for me if it do  ::)


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: Neil on December 22, 2009, 05:27:58 PM
Yeah it works Phil - well done dude.

Neil


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: SimonH on December 22, 2009, 05:30:20 PM
I will let him know about the fraud thing.

My experiences with ebay have been pretty good regards dodgy ebayers.  Bought a Beghaus jacket for £85 and never showed up - had the money returned via Paypal within 14days and also some designer womens shoes at about £20 (for Joanne ofc ^^)  these were also refunded within 14 days.


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: coleggwent(phil) on December 22, 2009, 05:38:04 PM
they are not all bad on flea bay guys there are a few crims on there they spoil it for the rest every body out to earn a pound or two the thing is what i dont understand is why the hell dont ebay do something about it me and the wife as had some bad things done to us on there and we reported them and they are still on there so what are you to do stay clear i say  :-\


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: SimonH on December 22, 2009, 10:16:03 PM
I've learnt that he bought 2 off him in 2 seperate auctions  :-\

 I told him to send him an email through ebay explaining that it was a misleading sale and if he was not happy with withdrawing from the auction he was gonn take it up with ebay under their misleading sales policy.

He's had a response back saying fair enough, no hard feelings and is gonna send him 1 in the post as a good will gesture at no cost - looks like he doesnt want his money making scheme to get stopped lol


Title: Re: Coin ID
Post by: handyman [Alan} on December 22, 2009, 10:20:59 PM
LOL - i would still report him -- if only to stop others from falling foul of his scam!

cheers and well done on the research today.


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