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Title: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 18, 2014, 09:20:44 PM
I earn my living off ebay , had a guy contact me about something i sold him Over 6 years ago and only now has decided he is not happy with it and wanted refund . Threatened me with various ways of blacken my name etc over internet ebay etc. Ended up costing me nearly £350. There is nothing stopping someone destroying your ebay account and living in a few easy steps >:(


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: jcb (THE THIMBLE) jones on October 18, 2014, 09:40:44 PM
surely you can contact ebay and complain sellers must have some sort of back up off them , unless you guarantee an item for 7 yrs


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: david995 on October 18, 2014, 09:56:52 PM
unfortunatley ebay never goes on the sellers side always the buyers


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 18, 2014, 09:58:08 PM
ebay are only interested in buyers not sellers they have always sided with them, yes they can remove bogus neg feedback but it does not look good on your account, and this can be difficult to prove sometimes. Iwill contact them but i do not even know his user name, i have got his address but he said he is in the process of moving maybe why he is doing this. Its a case of he knows me but i do not know him  :(


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: nonker10 on October 18, 2014, 10:56:32 PM
wow what a slimebag,hopefully justice will come mate.


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: Bling (mark) on October 18, 2014, 10:57:31 PM
Mate know where your coming from sold a mint battery powered scooter once around  one month later she told ebay  i sold a faulty item she also  told ebay her local bike shop couldn't fix it but didn't provide any proof what shop was used what a load of bull had to take scooter back and pay her delivery costs offered to send scooter to ebay to prove my point  as nothing was wrong with it  I'd never sell on ebay again


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: midastouch on October 19, 2014, 09:54:27 AM
Six years??

I would have told him to go forth and multiply.

Unless you specified such a guarantee, he wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

What he was doing is called blackmail. If it happens again, talk on the phone and record the conversation and keep all email and ebay messages.



Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 19, 2014, 10:09:05 AM
a a business seller you have to provide contact details in listing hence he contacted me on my mobile outside ebay. Yes it is clear blackmail but my 2 ebay accounts have only had 1 neg in 10 years on over 5000 tranactions so they are worth more that the money i have lost


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: midastouch on October 19, 2014, 10:22:37 AM
a a business seller you have to provide contact details in listing hence he contacted me on my mobile outside ebay. Yes it is clear blackmail but my 2 ebay accounts have only had 1 neg in 10 years on over 5000 tranactions so they are worth more that the money i have lost

I too have 100% feedback and understand your stance. However, I've had unfair negative feedback successfully removed from Ebay once I've shown them that the buyer was being either totally unreasonable or, in a couple of cases, downright fraudulant. By keeping messages and recording phone coversations, these thieves don't have a leg to stand on. If you pick up the phone again to someone trying the same, just tell them from the outset that you are recording the conversation [even if you're not  ;)] - and that you need their claim in writing.

6 years is really taking the Michael.  >:(

Keep winning,

MT
 



Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 19, 2014, 10:44:26 AM
Just had long conversation with Ebay and they said after 90 days they do not have a leg to stand on, another time will get them to call back and record ,to start with he wanted his full 1200 pound back and said paying back over 6 months would be ok . I know what i would like to do but that is a part of my past life that i do not want to repeat.


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: Radnor Bandit (Ian) on October 19, 2014, 09:35:37 PM
Under the paypal buyer protection scheme the buyer has up to 30 days from expected estimate time of delivery to make a claim.
 If buyer collects in person or has item sent to any other address other than the one on the invoice they have no claim at all .
Just add their user id to blocked contacts list and that will stop them even contacting you let alone bidding on any of your items.
feedback can only be left for upto 60 days from time of sale, so 6 years is a complete joke and if he rings again I would just laugh at him as he's obviously a chancer and an idiot as well.
Also could you not add his number to the blocked list on your mobile.


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 19, 2014, 09:48:20 PM
Under the paypal buyer protection scheme the buyer has up to 30 days from expected estimate time of delivery to make a claim.
 If buyer collects in person or has item sent to any other address other than the one on the invoice they have no claim at all .
Just add their user id to blocked contacts list and that will stop them even contacting you let alone bidding on any of your items.
feedback can only be left for upto 60 days from time of sale, so 6 years is a complete joke and if he rings again I would just laugh at him as he's obviously a chancer and an idiot as well.

yes if i new his id i would block so know idea how to stop his account or any one elses account hitting me with negs, its 90 days for pay pal to make  claim . I do have his name now but thats no good to me its my living so have to be careful


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: Radnor Bandit (Ian) on October 19, 2014, 10:10:17 PM
I also do quite a bit on Ebay and I understand how worrying the one bad apple can be. I try and give as good a service as possible.
it amazes me how some sellers (especially the chinese ones) can have huge amounts of negs yet still retain the so called top rated power seller status.
Do you post all your items registered / signed for? at least that gives you a bit of protection from the not recieved complainers.
If this idiot has tried this stunt on you he may well do it to others. They may have a history of it generally, and if he trys to sabotage your ebay status in the future, getting any possible negs removed shouldnt be to hard.

 


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 19, 2014, 10:31:43 PM
i have sold around 10000 collectable items on ebay and have only ever had to make one claim for some thing lost . In the idea world it would be nice to send every thing signed for signed for but ebay is very competitive and the extra cost to the the listing on lower value items you will NEVER sell anything , so you have to rely on proof of postage . I have a personal contact to a selling manager in ebay due to my high powerseller selling status who i can go to if i have any more problems with him or any one else . But they are powerless due to data protection of past transactions. Ebay have said even though i am out of pocket i have done the right thing to protect my account.


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: Dryland on October 19, 2014, 11:33:02 PM
What's to stop him contacting you again asking for more money, since you've given in once could he theoretically try it
 again ?


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 20, 2014, 06:16:47 AM
What's to stop him contacting you again asking for more money, since you've given in once could he theoretically try it
 again ?
This case is very complex and involves a number of people including art dealers so very unlikely, and he knows would get him no were


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: david995 on October 20, 2014, 09:44:38 AM
He could,  as well as try again , he could still give neg feed back,  he is a blackmailer.


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: M111kca on October 20, 2014, 10:37:47 AM
I would of told him to do one.i sell a lot on eBay and need it but I would never do that.


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 20, 2014, 12:07:51 PM
sometimes the law does not protect the right people,There are times in life when it is best to just walk away which i have found out to my cost in the past. Lets hope the saying what goes comes around happens


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: galoshers on October 20, 2014, 01:52:21 PM
a Nigerian with a false account location bought a phone and then asked me to send it to Lagos which i refused .he never paid of it but it was flagged up as my fault ,so i had to start from scratch ,disputes on the bay are nigh on impossible to resolve


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 20, 2014, 02:17:44 PM
a Nigerian with a false account location bought a phone and then asked me to send it to Lagos which i refused .he never paid of it but it was flagged up as my fault ,so i had to start from scratch ,disputes on the bay are nigh on impossible to resolve
I know what you mean i had my account high jacked twice in a week also by someone in Nigeria , once maybe but twice after changing all my passwords, ebay do have leaks and also had a job to convince them that it had been hijacked a second time.They were buying high value items and tryng to get the sellers to send them before payment.
Only a couple of weeks ago sold a Blackberry phone to someone regestered in Zambie he paid and sent phone straight away,.On return from PO message from ebay to say transaction canceled and not to post the Phone. Phoned them to be told he was no longer a ebay member and told to go back down the PO and get the phone back, which i refused and told them in no uncertain terms he paided so as in my ebay seller contract i should post which i did, Also informed them it was there selling platform i was using so if he was involved with crime it was there responsibilty not mine and that i should be covered under there seller protection programe, after much disagreement they did agree in the end and that was the end of the matter , and if he tried a charge back they would refund any thing i was out of pocket


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: win on October 20, 2014, 04:14:40 PM
I always list items on eBay as for UK only, saves a lot of hassle. Alternatively you can permanently block any country or area you wish and block any user.


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 20, 2014, 04:26:14 PM
I always list items on eBay as for UK only, saves a lot of hassle. Alternatively you can permanently block any country or area you wish and block any user.
There are also ways around this by them registering in uk then putting there shipping address overseas A Russian reg In UK  done this to me on some tools once and couriers in Russia cost a fortune.If someone is determined they will find a way around it
25% of my customers are overseas and just having uk sales affects the price on some items


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: chantalpoole on October 21, 2014, 11:16:42 AM
Not sure how he can leave neg feedback for you after 6 years as you only have 60 days.i sold on ebay full time between 2000 up to 2007 sold over quart million items.your buyer legally doesnt have a leg to stand on.block his user id and limit the amount of items any buyer can buy off or bid on in case he attemps to sabotage your auctions.phone ebays customer service and explain the situation.it is against ebay policy for a buyer to complete a sale with intent to damage a sellers reputation.after 6 years you owe this customer nothing.if he phones you r3cord the conversation and keep all messages.what he is trying to do is intimidate you and extort money from you


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 21, 2014, 12:16:35 PM
good to see there are so many expert sellers here My selling manager has been contacted as i have said , there is nothing stopping someone having more than one account as i have 3 at the moment,Ebay might have rules but that does not stop someone breaking them. Had to refund £350 worth of goods on £1000 sale of something that is now worthless so still Over £550 not to bad realy


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 21, 2014, 01:06:38 PM
This might help explain the situation better around 6-7 years ago i was offered a collection of 8 mono chromepen and ink pictures by a famous cartoonist drawn around 1917 all with war interested . Looked at them very closely with a mag glass and was almost sure they were correct any way i paid the private seller  and said would it be ok if in the morning if i  had another look at them he would refund me as i was not 100% sure, he yes said that would be fine. he had aldeady taken them to a auction house and they were not sure either.
So in the morning went around to 5 fello collectors/experts of artwork by this artist  who all viewed them and 5 sold straight away as there were very rare pictures for this cartoon with serious content,
So i listed one on ebay and within a couple of hours this sold also, the buyer left me feedback and was delighted with the picture ,the remaining picture sold off ebay over the next few months, and i keep one myself,
I must admit i was still only 95% sure they were correct and within my ebay discribsion listed as a picture only and not a original .So covering myself but now over 6 years later the buyer has contacted me and i gave him another picture as a good will gesture as i did feel bad for him as .
The so called expert that said they were correct having parted with Over £3000 have yet to find out that they to have none original works of art,
I have done a number of tests on the one that i have and beleave it to be a photo printed on high fibre paper of the period with very fine grain and matt finish printed during that time , so as you see quite complex . But as  many have said after 6 years what case does he have , he was happy with it , i decribed it as it was and offered full refund if not happy etc
When the news of this gets out no doubt i will be having the other collectors wanting money out of me.
Have up loaded picture of the one i still had and was offered over £3000 cash for it but decline and have just taken it out of the frame again and still not sure one way or the other


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 21, 2014, 01:12:15 PM
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Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: Radnor Bandit (Ian) on October 21, 2014, 06:01:22 PM
But you sold them in good faith after seeking 2nd expert opinions.
Id go back to your experts and see what they say. I imagine it will be the same as the majority of these posts.
Now if you was Sotherbys or Bonhams that may be a different matter.


Title: Re: Ebay sellers beware
Post by: bristolminelab on October 21, 2014, 06:12:52 PM
But you sold them in good faith after seeking 2nd expert opinions.
Id go back to your experts and see what they say. I imagine it will be the same as the majority of these posts.
Now if you was Sotherbys or Bonhams that may be a different matter.
They bought most of the remaining drawings  :D so they may not welcome the news ,they are experts but not in the trade and only collectors, one had bought 3 so he will be well gutted. I still made money on the 8 drawings  but any thing i done was in good faith, But the experts/collector were viewing them out of frames with magnefing glass so that is there loss


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