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« on: September 10, 2010, 08:38:40 PM »
Hi

Found these the other day in a rolled field, think one is a spur and not really sure what the other fragment is? it has a nice dark patina and obviously has some age to it. Any ideas would be great as i'm really scratching my head??? The cut half is just for scale....

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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 08:40:29 PM »
lovely pics buddy ,cleaned up well,well done
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 08:41:08 PM »
could second piccy be part of a flintlock?
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 08:45:38 PM »
I think its too small for a flintlock hammer, but certainly has that shape to it, it is broken at both ends too. Very good suggestion though, thanks.....
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 08:52:28 PM »
I think the first pic is more likely to be a leather working tool. I can't see how it would work as a spur as there  is nothing sharp (pointy)
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2010, 09:17:36 PM »
I've seen the top item described as a leather-working tool as well, but UKDFD ID's them as pastry cutters. See here:

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showcat.php?cat=269&stype=1&si=pastry&perpage=12&sort=1&stype=&limit=&cat=269&ppuser=
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2010, 09:19:04 PM »
And sorry, I can't make out from the picture what the other item is. Can you post a clearer image please?
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2010, 09:33:28 PM »
it looks like a rowel to me....( a spur wheel )..... Wink......byron
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2010, 09:44:21 PM »
i have to say,in jons defence ,that i was with him that day the field was next to a 13 th cent church,i had already pulled a edward 1st penny  and part of a roman coin from there and there is 2 medi era castles not far away,so the age was there and my first thought was a spur. 
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2010, 09:47:37 PM »
There are no spikes on it and if you put any on it there would be no room for it to turn. Definitely not a pastry jigger, totally wrong blade shape (pastry would stick).
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2010, 09:57:02 PM »
can we see a pic from the wheel to the body {space wise?]
 
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2010, 06:38:02 AM »
loks like a leather tool... pastry cutter!! not so sure,  spurs are star shape nomaly. but ive been wrong before so.....
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2010, 07:50:47 AM »
 ha ha,  i think you wrong this time as well nomad,  lol,  it is a pastry jigge / cutter,  mate
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2010, 07:52:49 AM »
No it's not Al and I've used hundreds. The blade is far too small and straight. It's an early stitch marking wheel for leather.
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i see what you mean after looking at the Doc's link Geoff,  could be worn down then from the leather,  i could be wrong then  lol
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