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Title: Short cross Id
Post by: Chris1 on February 11, 2017, 07:03:43 PM
Can someone help Id this please


Title: Re: Short cross Id
Post by: The Doc on February 11, 2017, 10:08:05 PM
Richard I or John short cross penny of Rhuddlan. The coins of this mint were struck from local dies and do not conform to the classes of the main short cross series.

Moneyer is Tomas and the reverse reads TOMAS ON RVLA.


Title: Re: Short cross Id
Post by: probono on February 11, 2017, 10:20:51 PM
I don't know if others can see it, but it appears to have an engraver's error - the obverse reads 'HNERI'....


Title: Re: Short cross Id
Post by: Chris1 on February 11, 2017, 10:28:16 PM
I don't know if others can see it, but it appears to have an engraver's error - the obverse reads 'HNERI'....
Yeah I spotted that aswel is that unusual


Title: Re: Short cross Id
Post by: Chris1 on February 11, 2017, 10:29:01 PM
Can someone help Id this please
thanks doc


Title: Re: Short cross Id
Post by: The Doc on February 11, 2017, 10:30:08 PM
Rhuddlan coins often have unusual spellings. A similar one here:

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=45210&title=richard-i-or-john-short-cross-penny&cat=154 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=45210&title=richard-i-or-john-short-cross-penny&cat=154)


Title: Re: Short cross Id
Post by: Chris1 on February 11, 2017, 10:34:24 PM
Can someone help Id this please
thanks for your help ;)


Title: Re: Short cross Id
Post by: marknewbury1 on February 12, 2017, 11:52:43 AM
Nice👍


Title: Re: Short cross Id
Post by: Myke on February 13, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
great coin....I live near Rhuddlan so it might be one my great great great great granddad dropped lol...


Title: Re: Short cross Id
Post by: Detectski on February 13, 2017, 06:13:34 PM
Myke, I reckon you need a few more 'greats' there  ;)

Year 1200 = roughly 23rd great-grandparents:

http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/OnE/NumberAncestors.html (http://dgmweb.net/Ancillary/OnE/NumberAncestors.html)



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