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Title: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: The Doc on August 14, 2009, 10:01:08 PM For Neil and maxine and anyone else who wants a go. Monarch, mint, moneyer, class?
Title: Re: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: hedgehog on August 14, 2009, 10:09:12 PM adan on winc , dunno if that's adam on winchester if it is it's Hen II, John or Richard because there is no moneyer of that name for Hen III
Trick of the light James , gotta move back from the screen then they stand out ;) Title: Re: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: James on August 14, 2009, 10:12:32 PM that one look differnt, how come it looks like the writing is indented rather than raised on the back,or is it a trick of the light?
Title: Re: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: hedgehog on August 14, 2009, 10:18:56 PM It's one of the following, Hen II (1a-c)
Richard (3) John (5 a-c) That's only 7 to guess from , wonder if the unbarred N has something to do with it, as well as the crown of course ;D Title: Re: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: hedgehog on August 14, 2009, 10:25:27 PM It's not Richard!
Title: Re: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on August 14, 2009, 10:29:38 PM I dont think its Henry ii either , regular amount of curls either side of head. doesnot match any of the 1a , 1a var , 1b or 1c....and now my eyes hurt , in fact they are bleeding silver tears.
Title: Re: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on August 14, 2009, 10:40:59 PM I think its a John class 5b Ilger
Title: Re: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: StumbledUpon on August 14, 2009, 10:44:54 PM John class 5a2 ? same as Hedgehog for the mint and moneyer. ;D (very difficult)
Title: Re: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: The Doc on August 14, 2009, 10:52:32 PM John is correct. Winchester is correct. Nobody has the right combination of moneyer and class yet, although some are correct with one of the two ;D
Title: Re: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: hedgehog on August 14, 2009, 10:52:53 PM 5a2 has a reversed s , so will say it's 5b, cross patee , but the unbarred N must have something to do with it?
Title: Re: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on August 14, 2009, 11:00:27 PM explain the Winchester part , how do you get to that peter?
Title: Re: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: The Doc on August 14, 2009, 11:15:07 PM explain the Winchester part , how do you get to that peter? The legend on the reverse of a short cross penny always has the same form: [MONEYER] ON [MINT] The reverse of this one reads ADAM ON WINC (although the M is very squashed and looks like an N). So the moneyer is Adam as hedgehog spotted, and WINC is an abbreviation for Winchester. (It can also be W, WI, WIN, WINCE OR WN) You were right with the Class being 5b, and hh has just got there as well. For completeness it is Class 5b2, which has a rounded top to the R whereas 5b1 has a flat top. Title: Re: Short Cross ID Puzzle Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on August 14, 2009, 11:33:56 PM Ahh well I had John 5b , not too far off ;D
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