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Title: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Neil on December 03, 2011, 03:10:24 PM
I purchased this recently and knew immediately on first sight what it was!

Here's the question - what exactly is it? Its not a metal detecting find, but easily could be and I need to find my spy glass to confirm the hallmark dates.

I'll give you a few clues - it's 9ct gold and weighs in at 9grams and is not all it initially appears to be. Theres a huge clue staring you in the face when you look at it!

Any ideas? I'll post the answer at about 5pm today.

And the answers NO before anyone asks. You definately do not get it if you answer correctly! This one is a keeper. ;D

Neil  


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Tafflaff (Rob) on December 03, 2011, 03:13:10 PM
is it a snuff or pill holder?


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Neil on December 03, 2011, 03:13:42 PM
Nope - keep guessing. You of all members should have an idea.


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Chef Geoff on December 03, 2011, 03:26:20 PM
Don't be stupid Neil, Taff wouldn't know, it's gold ;D


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Chef Geoff on December 03, 2011, 03:27:38 PM
Is it a ball locket ???


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Neil on December 03, 2011, 03:29:56 PM
Nope - no cigar sorry!


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Chef Geoff on December 03, 2011, 03:35:00 PM
OK how about a Masonic Ball ???


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Zeus (Joel) on December 03, 2011, 03:36:05 PM
some sort of puzzle ball lockett ?


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Villan (Neil) on December 03, 2011, 03:49:56 PM
 Is it a very expensive bauble for your Christmas tree,complete with piece of chocolate inside? :P ;)

 It looks to me like there is the letter M on it ??? Am I on the right track with that?


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Neil on December 03, 2011, 03:54:07 PM
You got it Chef! Although an honorable mention in dispatches to Joel as well!

It is indeed a Masonic golden globe and cross fob. The most blatant clue was the large letter M staring at you. Bang on target with the M guess Villan!

When its opened it reveals its true nature as a cross consisting of 6 gold pyramids. Each pyramid having four symbols carved to their faces such as a pentagon, skull and cross bone, star of david, set square, all seeing eye, etc. A total of 24 symbols engraved by a highly skilled goldsmith. Its all very Dan Brown and the Holy Grail! ;D

I need to do a bit of research on the hallmarks, but its provisionally pointing to the 1930's. I have only ever come across a silver one before and couldn't resist the temptation to purchase this one.

Neil





Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Villan (Neil) on December 03, 2011, 03:55:46 PM
Wow,now that's craftsmanship,no wonder your chuffed fella.nice one ;)


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Chef Geoff on December 03, 2011, 03:59:45 PM
Well I have to give credit to my better half, apparently they sell them in the jewellers in Glastonbury (what a surprise...not).


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: JRD on December 03, 2011, 04:24:14 PM
Very nice indeed Neil


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: Neil on December 03, 2011, 04:32:03 PM
I always thought your better half did most of your ID'ing cheffy! ;D

Be interested to know if they have a few of these or just the odd one, as in 30 years of being dragged from Auction Room to Antique Fayre its the first gold one I have seen.

I have some provenance with it so I know its over 40 years old for certain. The assay is Birmingham, but the date letter is worn as is the suspension hoop. I am thinking 1930's by the cartouch shaping of the hallmarks, but not certain yet.

cheers
Neil


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: rjm on December 03, 2011, 05:21:21 PM


I've just seen the post. My mum has one. I only know she's had it some years.


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: dances with badgers on December 04, 2011, 07:52:45 PM
thats awsome niel ,well spotted :)


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: dances with badgers on December 04, 2011, 07:54:59 PM
wow niel that is some piece of art  :o.where can i get one and whats it worth?


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: oscar on December 05, 2011, 11:03:40 PM
It is a really fasinating object - would love to own one myself.


Title: Re: Picked this up today - guess on what it is till 5pm!
Post by: dances with badgers on December 06, 2011, 07:27:51 PM
just checked out a masonic museam and theres some crackers in there.pyramid ones too.very very nice :)


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