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Title: medieval bronze seal for ID please Post by: lost on February 21, 2013, 08:21:12 PM Hello, found this bronze seal in North Wales on Sunday. I'm sure it's medieval, and have traced the picture as a religious scene of a pelican pecking its chest and feeding the blood to its young, which signified Jesus suffering for mankind sins. The legend reads +S' DD ? ? ? ? DE GWEDYR* There is a well known family known as Gwedyr or Gwydyr from North Wales that had a castle. Also the first part of the legend could read DDRAEG which I believe means dragon, but would a seal saying Dragon of Gwedyr make any sense especially with a religious scene? One other possibility is I have seen seals with DD in the legend meaning Doctor of Divinity, and this is usually a seal of an important religious person. I would really appreciate any help in identifying this interesting Welsh seal. Many thanks, Ray
Title: Re: medieval bronze seal for ID please Post by: Mike on February 21, 2013, 08:29:11 PM not a clue on seals but it needs recording with the local flo who will id it fully for you , an excellent find indeed , well done
Title: Re: medieval bronze seal for ID please Post by: cardiffian on February 21, 2013, 08:34:36 PM Like Mike says your Flo will be best for an id. It does need to br recorded. You will also get a nice report and picture for your records.
Title: Re: medieval bronze seal for ID please Post by: lost on February 21, 2013, 08:47:36 PM Cheers guys, I will get it recorded
Title: Re: medieval bronze seal for ID please Post by: The Doc on February 21, 2013, 09:48:46 PM It was me that suggested it might read 'DDRAEG DE GWEDYR' on the other site. Will be interesting to see what the FLO makes of the inscription.
Title: Re: medieval bronze seal for ID please Post by: lost on February 21, 2013, 10:18:02 PM thanks The Doc and everyone, I'll let you know what FLO says
Title: Re: medieval bronze seal for ID please Post by: glynkid on February 21, 2013, 10:19:41 PM graet find well done
Title: Re: medieval bronze seal for ID please Post by: probono on February 24, 2013, 08:24:21 PM The image on the seal reminds me of the story of the Pelican(?) - where the mother bird pulls out her feathers to wound herself so that predetors go after her rather than her children (there seem to be three smaller birds below) - and that is a religous scene, but it could be something else.
Title: Re: medieval bronze seal for ID please Post by: WeCan-Octavian on February 25, 2013, 07:34:50 AM I would love to find a seal well done mucker ;)
Title: Re: medieval bronze seal for ID please Post by: lost on February 25, 2013, 07:57:16 PM Thanks eveyone for your help and kind comments
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