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Title: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: sladey1985 on November 15, 2015, 11:49:20 PM (http://s14.postimg.org/sfznv8j4h/side_by_side.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: roughneck on November 16, 2015, 12:10:37 AM Hi Sladey
Me and Relicron will give it a go with you if you have permission in place. We live about half hour away in the Rhymney valley. Let me know if it's OK. Cheers. Tom Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: nobby on November 16, 2015, 12:11:32 AM That's strange there was a fight in Caerau ;D.......nice to know what comes up, working up there next week
Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: sladey1985 on November 16, 2015, 12:25:48 AM im deffo up for it its clear as day where it was by looking at the 2 maps so its got to be something there worth finding i hope lol
Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: nobby on November 16, 2015, 12:31:46 AM I think you should get permission first......even for Caerau ;D
Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Chef Geoff on November 16, 2015, 09:19:33 AM ??? It's a scheduled site so it's way off limits :-\
Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: TomG on November 16, 2015, 10:47:16 AM I was all excited then as I thought it was the Caerau near to Cimla in Neath. I thought: " I go off roading up there! "
Happy to come along if everything is legal and whatnot. :) Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: nobby on November 16, 2015, 10:56:20 AM It's not!
Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Chef Geoff on November 16, 2015, 11:38:28 AM Well it has a SAM number GM065 so it must be :-\
Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Da Monkey on November 16, 2015, 11:45:55 AM If it's scheduled its a no go, pure and simple, if it's not scheduled (and it seems that it is scheduled !) then you need the landowners permission if you don't want to get arrested... People appear from nowhere when you start detecting, if you don't have permission you are SUNK ! If you can get permission from the surrounding landowner then that's the way to go, you can detect right up to the exclusion zone and who knows what might pop up.
Too many people are buying machines and assuming that because there's a public right of way they can just detect there, it's not the case. Met a couple of guys locally walking with a detector who thought that and had to explain it to them... Keep it legal guys, or you could end up with more than you bargain for. BTW speaking of keeping the right side of the law, I saw on countryfile (last weeks edition I think) that the Welsh government are thinking of taking up a similar system to the Scottish land access rights. They said on Countryfile that it would give everyone access to ANY land for ANY outdoor activity, this surely cant be right, I'm sure there will be caveats for things like detecting... Any comments on this one ? Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: sladey1985 on November 17, 2015, 01:55:30 AM ??? It's a scheduled site so it's way off limits :-\ what do you mean by scheduled site im new to all this so not sure what you mean Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Val Beechey on November 17, 2015, 03:31:47 AM Wiki say it much more eloquently than me
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheduled_monument Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Greg on November 17, 2015, 10:43:45 AM Slady, I don't know why people are making it so complicated, the fact is that wherever you detect in these isles, you need permission off the Landowner (and only the landowner).
Scheduled sites, (castles, digs, archaeological sites) are a definite NoNo. Beaches:- see Crown estates. Easy to print a permit off the Internet. Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: probono on November 17, 2015, 11:34:15 AM BTW speaking of keeping the right side of the law, I saw on countryfile (last weeks edition I think) that the Welsh government are thinking of taking up a similar system to the Scottish land access rights. They said on Countryfile that it would give everyone access to ANY land for ANY outdoor activity, this surely cant be right, I'm sure there will be caveats for things like detecting... Any comments on this one ? Sounds interesting - I think I'm a bit of a fence sitter on this (the land access bit) - I know at the farm I go to they don't really want people tramping over their land (sometimes I think even on the footpaths) - and controlling access to prevent people doing nasty things to the animals / crops is important, but then I know that the land had been enclosed around 1810 - so people used to have access to it. I think there has to be some kind of balance between total and free access and the kind of enclosed parks of the middle ages. Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Cymro on November 17, 2015, 01:59:23 PM BTW speaking of keeping the right side of the law, I saw on countryfile (last weeks edition I think) that the Welsh government are thinking of taking up a similar system to the Scottish land access rights. They said on Countryfile that it would give everyone access to ANY land for ANY outdoor activity, this surely cant be right, I'm sure there will be caveats for things like detecting... Any comments on this one ? Seems a very broad-brush approach - it implies that anybody can enter my garden and play football among the potatoes . . . If I've learned one thing in my years on this earth it's that governments are not well known for doing things for the benefit of Joe Public, so I always look for an ulterior motive. Fracking comes to mind, for one - if they thought there were any gas deposits under my back garden they could just come along and extract it without reference to me. Or you, or anybody else. Good luck with my back garden - it's only about 20' x 30' but the principle remains. Need to look into this one some more . . . Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Chef Geoff on November 17, 2015, 02:01:45 PM I think you may find that while detecting may be OK the moment you stick a spade in the soil that would still constitute criminal damage ;)
Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Chainsaw Bampy on November 17, 2015, 03:05:45 PM personally i wouldn,t go digging anywhere i didn,t have permission, i wouldn,t risk a heavy fine and a criminal record. but its down to everyone in life to make their own decisions and suffer the outcomes.
Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: wagis on November 17, 2015, 03:21:01 PM I think your best off leaving it well alone
Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Val Beechey on November 17, 2015, 04:20:25 PM Clive, I've owned houses in various parts of the Midlands and now here in Pembrokeshire and I think you'd find that there is someone, somewhere that can play footy in you taties if they want to right now without the law being changed.
You might think you are the King of your castle by owning the land it stands on but if you check your deeds there will be a clause in there stating that you don't and never will own the mineral rights beneath the surface. Makes a pigs ear of the whole notion of home ownership if you ask me. Greg, there is a slight correction to your comment. If the land is leased you need the permission of the Land owner and the tenant. I recently had experience of this when I went to see a Land owner down here. He and his brother own huge areas in Pembrokeshire. His answer to my polite request for permission was " NO and I've instructed all my tenants, NO DETECTING." simply because of fellas going without permission and leaving gates open, animals wandering, etc etc. Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Resurgam on November 17, 2015, 04:21:38 PM You could possibly get your self a couple of bracelets digging there. :o
Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: JBM on November 17, 2015, 04:46:04 PM You could possibly get your self a couple of bracelets digging there. :o Plus a Television appearance. :( Jerry. Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: dingdong on November 17, 2015, 05:03:21 PM ..........But, you would be breaking the law !!(my thoughts)
..........ask yourself(my thoughts)... Is it worth it?,and you would be breaking rules stipulated by the Federation of Independent DETECTORISTS,there's plenty of very good land out there to Detect on surely.(dingdong,what? don't do it) OK then I won't. ??? (This is purely my own thoughts,and I am not trying to influence any one in any way whatsoever 👍) Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Greg on November 17, 2015, 11:16:18 PM Clive, I've owned houses in various parts of the Midlands and now here in Pembrokeshire and I think you'd find that there is someone, somewhere that can play footy in you taties if they want to right now without the law being changed. You might think you are the King of your castle by owning the land it stands on but if you check your deeds there will be a clause in there stating that you don't and never will own the mineral rights beneath the surface. Makes a pigs ear of the whole notion of home ownership if you ask me. Greg, there is a slight correction to your comment. If the land is leased you need the permission of the Land owner and the tenant. I recently had experience of this when I went to see a Land owner down here. He and his brother own huge areas in Pembrokeshire. His answer to my polite request for permission was " NO and I've instructed all my tenants, NO DETECTING." simply because of fellas going without permission and leaving gates open, animals wandering, etc etc. A moot point Val, I was only trying to make things simple. I doubt a landowner would give permission without reference to their tenant, what I was trying to get across is that permission off a tenant is not enough. Correction accepted. Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Chainsaw Bampy on November 18, 2015, 09:45:29 AM thought someone might be interested, there has been found on this site some very nice artifacts including a complete medieval ornate spur to modern silver rings [which have been handed into the flo]
Post Edit - Sorry Bampy - we do not promote them on DW. Cheers Neil Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: Chainsaw Bampy on November 18, 2015, 11:05:28 AM i thought it was ok to put up the deleted item ,as i have seen other clubs informing members on here about thier upcoming rallies/infomation and that it would be good relations for all the detecting clubs to exist on a friendly basis, maybe i got it wrong again.oops sorry.
Title: Re: Anyone up for giving this a go with me Post by: smudgecd on November 23, 2015, 05:21:38 PM You will have a hard job getting permission as the llanelli club has sole permission for this land. If anyone is caught on the land without permission it is classed as tresspassing.
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