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Title: Cut half hammered
Post by: GJH on January 16, 2013, 04:52:17 PM

 Could someone please ID this cut hammered
 Thanks
 Geoffr


Title: Re: Cut half hammered
Post by: WeCan-Octavian on January 16, 2013, 05:59:55 PM
Id say Henry III 1216-72 nice find  ;D ???


Title: Re: Cut half hammered
Post by: The Doc on January 16, 2013, 07:44:19 PM
Well found. It's London mint, moneyer Abel. I think it's very late John (class 6b or 6c1).


Title: Re: Cut half hammered
Post by: GJH on January 16, 2013, 08:05:01 PM

 Thank you both, I don't know how you do it,I look in the spinks book and just get confused,I thought it might have been a John or a Henry but thats as far as I got.
 Thanks again
 Geoff


Title: Re: Cut half hammered
Post by: WeCan-Octavian on January 16, 2013, 08:11:13 PM
Im the same, just taking punts really lol

the doc will always produce the goods   ;D


Title: Re: Cut half hammered
Post by: probono on January 16, 2013, 08:50:14 PM

 Thank you both, I don't know how you do it,I look in the spinks book and just get confused,I thought it might have been a John or a Henry but thats as far as I got.
 Thanks again
 Geoff

I don't think the Spinks book is all that clear. It would be much easier if I could find my 'Short Cross' Pennies book by Wren. It's all about the shape of certain letters and the number of curls and the like. Being able to read the moneyers name and mint signature also help to narrow things down - in this case [AB]EL.ON.LV[NDE] who was active from class 5c to 7a according to Spinks.


Title: Re: Cut half hammered
Post by: GJH on January 16, 2013, 08:55:11 PM

 Thank you both, I don't know how you do it,I look in the spinks book and just get confused,I thought it might have been a John or a Henry but thats as far as I got.
 Thanks again
 Geoff

I don't think the Spinks book is all that clear. It would be much easier if I could find my 'Short Cross' Pennies book by Wren. It's all about the shape of certain letters and the number of curls and the like. Being able to read the moneyers name and mint signature also help to narrow things down - in this case [AB]EL.ON.LV[NDE] who was active from class 5c to 7a according to Spinks.

 Now you really have done my head in  ;D


Title: Re: Cut half hammered
Post by: Chef Geoff on January 16, 2013, 09:11:22 PM
Well done Geoff, lovely find mate. You know your not missing much when they come up ;)


Title: Re: Cut half hammered
Post by: glynkid on January 17, 2013, 04:29:59 AM
nice find I would go for Henry the third but could be wrong I have found a couple of cut halfs but never a cut quarter Has anyone found a cut quarter???


Title: Re: Cut half hammered
Post by: anthonyjay on January 17, 2013, 02:05:32 PM
John 1199 - 1216 Spinks 1350b page 156


Title: Re: Cut half hammered
Post by: probono on January 17, 2013, 03:02:03 PM
John 1199 - 1216 Spinks 1350b page 156

I was looking at this - I didn't think the face was elongated enough for a class 6b, the crown jewel and the 'X' of rex were more like class 5b, but according to Spinks Abel didn't strike class 5b coins. If only the other half of the coin were there it would be much easier :)


Title: Re: Cut half hammered
Post by: GJH on January 17, 2013, 04:21:17 PM
John 1199 - 1216 Spinks 1350b page 156

I was looking at this - I didn't think the face was elongated enough for a class 6b, the crown jewel and the 'X' of rex were more like class 5b, but according to Spinks Abel didn't strike class 5b coins. If only the other half of the coin were there it would be much easier :)

Thanks everyone for having a look, I'll see what I can do about the other half Probono  :)
 Geoff


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