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« on: May 10, 2013, 10:32:47 PM »
spent a few hours this evening on a local permission, and came across this item around 12 inches down on pasture. please can someone i.d. ?thanks in advance

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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 10:46:45 PM »
Congratulations - certainly looks like a Roman brooch to my untrained eyes.

Well done
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2013, 10:49:08 PM »
i didn't want to jinx myself by mentioning the 'R' word, but if it is then its my oldest find!   Huh Grin

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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2013, 10:52:27 PM »
Come on Chef - give us the exact style and Hattat number.

He's our resident Roman brooch expert by the way Sharkey - well he has found a few hundred! No Jaws/Jews Harps however - but that's a whole other story

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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2013, 10:55:28 PM »
Quote from: Neil on May 10, 2013, 10:52:27 PM
Come on Chef - give us the exact style and Hattat number.

He's our resident Roman brooch expert by the way Sharkey - well he has found a few hundred! No Jaws/Jews Harps however - but that's a whole other story

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ok if thats the case then id love an exact i.d including who wore it and for what occasion etc   Wink

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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2013, 10:58:16 PM »
well done Sharkey  , looks like a cracking find.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2013, 11:10:15 PM »
According to the 'new' system (Mackreth) it is type 5673 - I'm not sure what 'type' it should be called, as I'm still trying to understand the bits and pieces, but it comes under 'Wroxeter types', but says it is a 'headstud' type of brooch which is a Colchester derivative with a polden hill spring arrangement and a bloke called Philpot calls them his 'Wirral' type from the numbers found there, suggesting a mid 2nd century date.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2013, 11:12:46 PM »
Well done it certainly looks roman to me. You are getting some nice finds lately, carry on the good work.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2013, 11:12:54 PM »
Quote from: probono on May 10, 2013, 11:10:15 PM
According to the 'new' system (Mackreth) it is type 5673 - I'm not sure what 'type' it should be called, as I'm still trying to understand the bits and pieces, but it comes under 'Wroxeter types', but says it is a 'headstud' type of brooch which is a Colchester derivative with a polden hill spring arrangement and a bloke called Philpot calls them his 'Wirral' type from the numbers found there, suggesting a mid 2nd century date.



excuse me while i pick my jaw up off the floor ...... Shocked  

thanks very much for the info i cant believe how old it is ... i had it rattling round in my finds pouch too with all the shotgun cartridge ends !

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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2013, 11:32:48 PM »
Quote from: probono on May 10, 2013, 11:10:15 PM
According to the 'new' system (Mackreth) it is type 5673 - I'm not sure what 'type' it should be called, as I'm still trying to understand the bits and pieces, but it comes under 'Wroxeter types', but says it is a 'headstud' type of brooch which is a Colchester derivative with a polden hill spring arrangement and a bloke called Philpot calls them his 'Wirral' type from the numbers found there, suggesting a mid 2nd century date.




LOL you have much to learn grasshopper Grin

A lovely find Sharkey, made even better by the enamel still present. OK well as Probono says it's a Wroxeter type which are actually derivatives of trumpet brooches, yours has a hinged pin and not a Polden hills spring, it dates up to around 150AD and is far more of a common find in the north Midlands.
It's classified as a Hattatt 1538 Wink

This is one recorded on PAS
http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/243686
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2013, 11:52:42 PM »
Quote from: Chef  Geoff on May 10, 2013, 11:32:48 PM
Quote from: probono on May 10, 2013, 11:10:15 PM
According to the 'new' system (Mackreth) it is type 5673 - I'm not sure what 'type' it should be called, as I'm still trying to understand the bits and pieces, but it comes under 'Wroxeter types', but says it is a 'headstud' type of brooch which is a Colchester derivative with a polden hill spring arrangement and a bloke called Philpot calls them his 'Wirral' type from the numbers found there, suggesting a mid 2nd century date.




LOL you have much to learn grasshopper Grin

A lovely find Sharkey, made even better by the enamel still present. OK well as Probono says it's a Wroxeter type which are actually derivatives of trumpet brooches, yours has a hinged pin and not a Polden hills spring, it dates up to around 150AD and is far more of a common find in the north Midlands.
It's classified as a Hattatt 1538 Wink

This is one recorded on PAS
http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/243686


once again, thanks very much for the i.d. i'm absolutely made up to actually know what it is and also knowing it is so old! 

my first roman item  Grin

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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2013, 03:42:52 AM »
Awsome find chap, well done!
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2013, 06:38:03 AM »
Well done mate
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2013, 07:49:52 AM »
Well done fella, that is a cracking find indeed.
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2013, 08:29:03 AM »
Thanks for the comments people   Grin
Hoping to have a few more hours there later.

Happy hunting

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