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Just got my Eddy 6 shilling back from the FLO and his report states that my Eddy is "A silver forged / contemporary copy of an Edward VI shilling" The front has some green corrosion dots showing thru from an exposed copper core, and the coin is light.

Not the best of news, but he did say contemporary copies like are quite rare and it could be worth a couple of bob ? Not to sure how you go about valuing a forgery?

Any ideas ?

Dave

Contact the auction houses...

still a great find , as to value , forged coins /notes are on sale for 1/2 face value so I can offer you   6d  just to take it off your hands  ::) ::) ;)

Mike you're always soooooooo  generous ;D ;D

It may be a forgery but it is in cracking condition.Well done.

Regardless of it being a contemporary forgery, its a thing of beauty mate.

Well found

Neil

A lovely find Dave and being a counterfeit means the story of it's manufacture would certainly be more interesting and full of intrigue as the sentence if caught minting them at that time was to be hung, drawn and quartered  :o

Forgery or not would love to find that, great find Dave  :D

Well Geoff, they did have a more ROBUST sentencing system back in those days. But hanging, drawing, and quartering does seem a little excessive.

It is a great looking coin, the others forgeries I have seen from that period have lost their silvering and are looking quite distresses, so I was supprised when it came back as a forgery.  

Ah well, It's the biggest hammered I've ever found, and it does look good in my small coin collection,

Dave

Well if you had a good lawyer they could probably get you off the quartering ;D ;D The offence was "Coining" and was considered high treason.
It's not a silvered forgery by the looks, more like an incredibly low silver content, basically a copper coin with a bit of silver thrown in for colour.
It's still a hammered coin and contemporary so a top find ;)

I wouldn't be to sure its a forgery as the green is very common as its from the Base silver issue, continuing from henry VIII, the silver content at this time was at its worse, struck in low grade base silver, also a lot of the contemporary forgeries was struck in brass and they are quite common just take a look on P.A.S and see the condition.

Did your FLO say why it was a forgery?

I spent 20mins trying to find a die match, I found one very close to yours with the D on EDWARD slightly slanted but the rest of the coin was worn and hard to compare.

A few weeks ago I spotted a Henry VIII Bristol Testoon on line what a friend of mine brought for his collection it also had the green spots as its also from the debased issue....... it would be interesting to hear what the FLO said, there not always right some of the coins iv seen are listed completely wrong.
It may be worth someone else taking a look :)

 

Hi Dale, 
Thanks for the reply. I had a look at the brass copies, and they are nothing like mine. The FLO put a link to some on the info sheet he gave me with the coin. as you say they are in a poor state.

The FLO paperwork said "A silver forged / contemporary copy of a shilling of Edward VI - initial mark indistinct. The front face of the coin is pocked and a green coloured corrosion is showing through - presumably from the exposed copper core. The coin feels light".

Diameter 31.3, thickness 1.0 mm Weight 4.0 grams.

I'm no expert on these things, and I think Edward VI coins are a specialist area. Who would you recommend I take it to for a second opinion?

Thanks Dave

wasnt the doc ,a coin dealer..

Hi Dave,

As Geoff said it doesn't look like a silvered forgery, its more like a poor silver content, but looking at your coin its pretty good.
I know a person what should be able to help you, if not he knows all the top dealers.
Give me a little time I should be able to get a little info for you, tomorrow evening ;) 

Email now sent ;) lets see 

Yes there is no copper core, the green is the copper leaching out of the coin, this can happen on all alloyed coins even modern cupro nickel coins, if you notice that many modern "silver" coins and the £ will have turned pink or red this is the result of one metal leaching to the surface. The process has been used to advantage for centuries with some of the best known iron age torcs that we think of as gold, they are in fact electrum (gold/silver) the strands of which were beaten repeatedly which brings the gold to the surface.

Well he got back to me regarding the shilling, from what he has seen from the photo it all looks ok, but it would be better if he could examine it.
He said the weight being under would not bother him that much being the issue it is.
The ID he gave is Bust 5 mm (Y) southwark mint S.2466B but that is a tentative ID... I also think its mm (Y) I have circled it to show you where it is for you to compare to others.
If you live near Bristol he can have a better look for you, he would also be interested in buying it if you ever want to sale, providing its the real deal........

So it looks good ;)