The Royal Charter shipwreck

[sandpiper]

Hi
the s4c documentary of the wreck is on tonight  930 pm  wednesday 21 st Oct its a real tragic story .If you like shipwrecks and gold then its one to watch .I watched it with subtitles on teletext 888 on sunday .I would have mixed feelings about finding any gold from this site  -almost too tragic for words  what would your feelings be ?Theres also stuff on the S4C website about the wreck including a veiw of the gold and posessions found.- one day I might be tempted to go there

[wet feet again]

this area of beach has seen lots of detectors over time, the wreck has also been salvaged many times,
also dived many times by local divers as only 100yards offshore and max 8 to 10 meters to seabed.
 should you get up there go in the royal oak pub they did have a gold coin to show people.

[cardiffian]

I have read the book about this shipwreck and yes it is a very tragic story. Well worth a read but can't remember the author's name. If I remember right, one story has it that a customs officer called on one house to see if they had any gold, and he was poured a cup of tea from a teapot that contained hidden gold coins.

[wet feet again]

yes the story is very sad,
 I think somewhere near400 people were lost on the royal charter. but there were gallant attempts to save lives by both locals and crew rogers a maltese crewman.
 there was over 400 shipwrecks around the country that night in 1859. The great eastern almost sank in hollyhead harbour.
As a diver we have the moral dilemma weather to dive on wrecks that have taken lives, look don't touch is now the norm but that was not the case 20 years ago + most of the wrecks around the country have bee salvaged at the time of sinking or modern day,
 is there a similar dilemma with metal detecting as most hordes were hidden by people fearing for their lives and not recovering items due to circumstances we don't know.
now theres a question

[carling]

i feel there must be a dilemma somewhere regards finding hoards,, these things were placed in the ground and commonly by people that never returned for there items did these people die? get drunk and not remember where they buried the stuff? or were the items placed in the ground as to never be found ,,was someones hopes and dreams included in the hoard? {such as offering to the gods} some hoards if used at the right time could have changed history as we know it,,,,,,then god know how many years later some herbert digs up these things so they can pay the mortgage and buy a new car,,so i dunno maybe they are being found and used in a way that may please our ancesters {another family trying to get on in life  the best way they can} will i stop looking on the off chance that there may be a huge hoard on the next swing ,no,,but i would feel that it was only right to leave a couple of coins in the findspot just as a tribute to the people that put them there in the 1st place.