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Title: Coins of Cromwell and Commonwealth of England 1649 and 1660
Post by: Kev on December 19, 2011, 01:56:34 PM
sorry photos are a bit large  :D :D :D ;)

1649 Silver Halfcrown                                                                                                                              
(http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/ESC_42504.jpg)                                     (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/ESC_44303.jpg)
                                                                                                                                            
              
                                                                                                        
1651 “Blondeau” Halfcrown




Sometimes referred to as "breeches money" this type of late hammered coinage was minted in England after a period of civil war which culminated in the beheading of King Charles I in London in 1649
Hammered coins from this period bear no portrait of a king or queen for there was none. Instead there is a simple puritan design. The reverse depicts co-joined shields of England and Ireland, with a date and the legend "GOD WITH VS". The obverse bears the legend "COMMONWEALTH OF ENGLAND" and a single shield in the centre with a mintmark and stops, to complete the legend.

A solution was offered by Peter Blondeau - milled coins - with edge writing. After travelling over from France he was commissioned to prepare 100 samples each of two halfcrowns with differing edge lettering, a shilling and a sixpence, all dated 1651 using his press. Although he completed this task, producing coins of extremely high quality the mint was not inclined to accept his innovation and fought to delay the introduction of his technology on the basis of his production costs being too high.

In 1656, after repeated attempts, Peter Blondeau persuaded parliament to take up his new press techniques, and he was finally commissioned to make the now famous milled "Cromwell Coinage" using dies made by Thomas Simon, with gold and silver supplied from the mint. These coins were made in very limited numbers in the year 1657.

During 1657 there was a Trial of the Pix, where retained coins from the mint were tested for both weight and metal purity. The mintmark sun which had been the universal mintmark was changed after the trial to an anchor mintmark which was used for the remaining years 1658 to 1660.

Peter Blondeau was to make one final series of milled Cromwell coins using dies believed to have been supplied by Thomas Simon dated 1658. These milled coins were made in significant numbers but not without production problems. The Cromwell Silver Crown of 1658 is notable for a die crack in the lower half of the coin - see Cromwell Crown.

Oliver Cromwell died while Peter Blondeau was producing milled coins in London in 1658. In the remaining two years the mint reverted back to making hammered coinage which seems to have been produced in very small quantities with poor quality before the monarchy was restored in 1660.


Cromwell Halfcrown, 1658
(http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/Cromwell165803.jpg)                                                            (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/ESC_426A03.jpg)
                                                                                                                                                                               1651-57 Sun Mintmark            (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/Sun_Mintmark.jpg)

(http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/ESC_441A03.jpg)
(http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/Anchor_Mintmark.jpg)
1658-60 Anchor Mintmark


Title: Re: Coins of Cromwell and Commonwealth of England 1649 and 1660
Post by: Villan (Neil) on December 19, 2011, 06:02:49 PM
Interesting read that Kev,cheers. Lovely coins too :o


Title: Re: 1649 and 1660
Post by: Kev on December 19, 2011, 06:28:57 PM
Cheers Villan ;)
on the subject of Coins of Cromwell and Commonwealth of England i will keep this post going for a while as i have a good selection on photos and info on this particular topic of Cromwell coins.
                                                                                          
                                                                                          Gold Double Crowns - 1649 to 1658 and 1660
                                                                                                          AV Unite (9.04 gm, 8h). Dated 1653 Coat-of-arms of England; mm: sun Coats-of-arms of England and Ireland.
 
                                                                                                                 (http://www.cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/DBLCR1649_1Slideshow.jpg)

    


Title: Re: Coins of Cromwell and Commonwealth of England 1649 and 1660
Post by: Kev on December 21, 2011, 01:38:12 PM
                                                               The Silver Half Groat, Penny and Halfpenny, all undated or are they ?
                                                                                                             (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/ESC_2160.jpg)
                                                                ESC 2160 - The COMMONWEALTH OF ENGLAND Silver Half Groat, from the early years, this one more than likely from 1653.
                                                                                                                (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/ESC_2263A.jpg)
                                                                 ESC 2263 - The COMMONWEALTH OF ENGLAND Silver Penny, from the anchor period, most likely 1658.
                                                                                                              (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/ESC_2363A.jpg)
                                                                 ESC 2363 - The COMMONWEALTH OF ENGLAND Silver Half Penny, from the early years

(http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/Sun_Mintmark.jpg)
(http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/Anchor_Mintmark.jpg)


Title: Re: Coins of Cromwell and Commonwealth of England 1649 and 1660
Post by: Chef Geoff on December 21, 2011, 04:09:51 PM
And here's one for Taff to drool over as I know it's high on his wish list. A Cromwell as Protector 5/-

(http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv294/Chef_02/ts.jpg)


Title: Re: Coins of Cromwell and Commonwealth of England 1649 and 1660
Post by: Kev on December 24, 2011, 04:03:11 PM
                                                                                     Rogues Gallery - forgeries past and present
                                                                                                           (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/1652CrFake.jpg)              (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/1652CraFake.jpg)
                                                                                                      1652 COMMONWEALTH OF ENGLAND Crown, 2 over 1 in date type

                                                                                                          (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/1651Fake02.jpg)                     (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/1651FakeA02.jpg)

                                                                                                         1651 COMMONWEALTH OF ENGLAND Halfcrown, base metal and surface silvered

                                                                                       (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/Peck_3.jpg)                          (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/Peck_3A.jpg)  
                                                                                                            Oliver Cromwell Pattern Farthing. BMC 388 of which this is an electrotype copy.

                                                                                           (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/Peck_2.jpg)                                   (http://cromwellcoins.com/assets/images/Peck_2A.jpg)
                                                                                                           Oliver Cromwell Pattern Farthing. BMC 390 of which this is an electrotype copy.


Title: Re: Coins of Cromwell and Commonwealth of England 1649 and 1660
Post by: scruff on January 29, 2012, 06:28:36 PM
great post and very informative


Title: Re: Coins of Cromwell and Commonwealth of England 1649 and 1660
Post by: Liam74 on March 09, 2012, 04:01:05 PM
Hi

I could not believe it when i found this, so small and another within a few months of detecting.

(http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy221/Liam_74/DSCF0608.jpg)

(http://i794.photobucket.com/albums/yy221/Liam_74/DSCF0617.jpg)

atb.

Liam.


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