poss saxon coin id please

[celticspikey]

found on medieval site
measures 22mm
weighs 1.3 grm
looks like  EADE
                 LDH       on one side
EDELFTANREX     on the other
any ideas

[Chef Geoff]

What a lovely, lovely find
It's a penny of Aethelstan 924-939AD.

[nobby]

very nice....i'd love to have that

[legio11augustus]

think its edelstan deffo saxon

[legio11augustus]

sorry aedelstan

[legio11augustus]

he reigned jointly with his father from 839-851

[Neil]

Now thats a cracker - something we all dream of finding.

Great post - keep them coming

Neil

[wayno]

Nice Saxon well done

[legio11augustus]

difference of opinions with cheoff ,but a cracking find well done buddy

[Roman (Ray)]

lovely coin mate welldone indeed.
ray..

[Chef Geoff]

Not sure which book you have Legio There was no AEdelstan back then. that is the Saxon spelling for Aethelstan or Athelstan.

This is the coin obverse with the right orientation, cracking find spikey

[benny]

Lovely find that!

[legio11augustus]

 Æthelstan, fl. 839-851, king of Kent, Essex, Surrey, Sussex.
The A, B, and C versions of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle appear to make Æthelstan a son of Æthelwulf ["... & se Ecgbryht ricsode .xxxvii. wiñt [&] .vii. monaþ. & feng Eþelwulf Ecgbrehting to Wesseaxna rice, & he salde his suna Æþelstane Cantwara rice & East Seaxna & Suþrigea & Suþ Seaxna." ASC(A) s.a. 836 (=839)], while the D, E, and F versions make Æthelstan the "other" son of Ecgbeorht ["... & se Ecgbriht rixade .xxxvii. winter. & .vii. monðas. & feng Æþelwulf his sunu to WestSeaxna rice. and Æðelstan his oðer sunu feng to Cantwara rice. & to Suðrigan. & to Suðseaxna rice." ASC(E) s.a. 836 (=839)]. However, Plummer believed "the real meaning of A to be identical with that of E." [ASC 2: 75] The chronicler Æthelweard clearly states that Æthelstan was a son of Æthelwulf ["Porro post obitum Athulf successit in regnum Ecgbyrhti, patris sui, regnumque Cantuariorum tradidit filio suo Ethelstano, et Eastsexena et Suthsexena et Suthriæ, ..." Æthelweard, Chronicon, 30; "... de filiis Aðulfi incipiam loqui. Namque fuere numero fratres quinque: primus Eðelstanus, qui et regnum obtinuerat simul cum patre suo; secundus Eðelbald, ..." ibid., 39]. So does William of Malmesbury ["[Ethelwulfus] denique, avito West-Saxonum regno contentus, cetera quæ pater subjugaverat appendicia filio Ethelstano contradidit, qui quando et quo fine defecerit incertum." Wm. Malmes. Gesta Regum, c. 108 (1: 108)] and John of Worcester ["Ecgbrihtus rex Occidentalium Saxonum obiit, ... cujus post mortem filius suus Athulfus in West-Saxonia regnare coepit, suumque filium Æthelstanum Cantuariis, East-Saxonibus, Suthregiis, et Suth-Saxonibus regem præfecit. John Worc. s.a. 836 (1: 69)]. On the other hand, Henry of Huntingdon states that Æthelstan was a son of Ecgbeorht ["De regno Cantiæ pauca dicenda sunt: siquidem cum Egbrictus rex Westsexe, Baldredo fugato, regnum Cantiæ in dominio suo tenuisset, Adelstano filio suo moriens illud reliquit. Adelstano vero defuncto, ad fratrem Edelwlfum regem Westsexe regnum illud rediit, ..." Hen. Hunt. v, 31 (p. 171)]. Æthelstan appears in charters from 839 ["Ego Aeðelstan rex" Cart. Sax. 1: 598 (#426)] to 850 ["Ego Aedelstan Rex", Cart. Sax. 2: 48 (#459); "Ego Ethelwolf rex occidentalium Saxonum, seu Ethelstan rex Kanc." ibid. (#460); see also ibid., #437, #439, #442, #444, #445, #446, #449]. Only two of these give any relationship, and they both call him a son of Æthelwulf ["... Aethelwlfo Regi præsente atque Aethelstano filio ejus ..." Cart. Sax. 2: 23 (#445, AD844); "... Atheluulfo rege . & Athelstane filio ejus ..." ibid. 2: 26 (#446, AD844)]. Æthelstan last appears in the records in 851 in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, which states that he and a certain Ealhhere fought against a Viking army in that year ["And þy ilcan geare Æðelstan cining and Ealhere dux gefuhton on scipum. & mycelne here ofslogan æt Sandwic. & .ix. scipu gefengon. & þa oðre geflymdon." ASC(E) s.a. 851 ("And the same year King Athelstan and Dux Ealhhere fought in ships, and struck a great raiding-army at Sandwich, and captured 9 ships and put the others to flight." ASC(Eng) 65]. Haigh, followed by Howorth, would identify Æthelstan with the East Anglian king of that name who ruled there ca. 827 - ca. 837 and is known only from coins [Haigh (1845), 11; Howorth (1908), 255-262].

As pointed out by Stubbs, chronology would favor the version in which Æthelstan was a son of Ecgbeorht [Wm. Malmes 2: xl, n. 2]. On the other hand, the two charters to state Æthelstan's parentage would, if based on genuine charters, seem to give conclusive proof that he was a son of Æthelwulf. The latter seems more likely, but it is difficult to offer a definite conclusion.

[Chef Geoff]

Ah sorry Legio, you mean the Ealdorman of Kent, Essex, Surrey and Sussex. I don't think he has any coins issued.

[legio11augustus]

think i might have got mixed up when he was king of sussex etc