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Title: New Permission Finds Post by: Meatslicer on November 30, 2013, 08:25:33 PM Had a couple of new permissions this week, in Abergavenny and Llantwit Major.
Found a copper George 111 that I can't identify, and a silver-gilt brooch (?) that looks pretty ornate but not sure of its age. See what You lot think! Eric Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: legio11augustus on November 30, 2013, 08:30:32 PM nice finds , brooch looks viccy to me ,no hallmarks?
Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: herbie on November 30, 2013, 08:32:36 PM Looks like a clothes fastener to me!! i may be wrong!! :) nice finds though!
Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: Neil on November 30, 2013, 08:33:41 PM Brooch looks like a Tudor hooked clothing fastener.
Would appear to be silver gilt. The hook has broken off it. Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: herbie on November 30, 2013, 08:36:24 PM Brooch looks like a Tudor hooked clothing fastener. Would appear to be silver gilt. The hook has broken off it. Oi neil i said it first!! ;) Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: Da Monkey on November 30, 2013, 08:48:49 PM I'm with Herbie and Neil, tudor fastener minus pin. bit like the one I found. was reportable as treasure and now with FLO...
Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: Neil on November 30, 2013, 08:55:47 PM You did indeed Herbie mate - pipped me to it by 50 seconds! ;)
Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: Chef Geoff on November 30, 2013, 09:23:15 PM And I'm not going to argue lol definitely a hooked fastener. Nice going Eric ;)
Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: nobby on November 30, 2013, 09:32:24 PM Coin looks like George iii guinea forgery
Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: nobby on November 30, 2013, 09:33:33 PM Am I right and did I beat the doc ??? ;D
Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: The Doc on November 30, 2013, 09:39:23 PM Nice finds Eric!
I agree with most of the above, so well done all on the IDs. The first one is a gaming counter, something like this: http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=36075&cat=207 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=36075&cat=207) The second item is a 16th century silver-gilt clothing fastener. This one is similar, but is missing the attachment loop, whereas yours is missing the hook: http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=27365&cat=102 (http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=27365&cat=102) Should be reported as possible Treasure if you want to do the right thing. Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: Dryland on November 30, 2013, 09:42:09 PM Well found Eric thats a cracking fastener. and Nobby you were wrong ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: The Doc on November 30, 2013, 09:44:30 PM Well found Eric thats a cracking fastener. and Nobby you were wrong ;D ;D I wouldn't say nobby was wrong, these would have been gilded originally and probably attempts were made to pass them off as guineas. Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: Dryland on November 30, 2013, 09:48:15 PM Oh Doc don't say that, can't you just say that he was more wrong than right lol
Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: legio11augustus on December 01, 2013, 12:10:28 AM i was way off ;D
Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: Meatslicer on December 01, 2013, 10:48:59 AM I was confused coz the counter had a bust that looked more like George the second and the reverse looks like a Guinea. The dimples all over it make it look like it was cast rather than struck or milled. It was in the garden of a house that was a mint in the 16th and 17th century so it could possibly have been made on site using old equipment and counterfeiting dies.
The pin looked ornate but the pin attachment on the back of it looked like a modern soldering joint so I am surprised its so old. The gilding showed up when I cleaned it in my ultrasonic bath. I can't claim to have known what either of them were definitely, so I'm not going to comment on degrees of wrongness! Eric Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: colin on December 01, 2013, 03:07:09 PM nice brooch that is eric i found a victorian brooch last year with a similar pattern i will
dig a put a pic up later of it Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: Dale on December 01, 2013, 05:25:28 PM Well done Eric great find, I like the decoration on the fastener ! ;) good hunting
Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: Moncó on December 01, 2013, 09:55:55 PM Great finds.. congratulations..
;D Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: Svaipa on December 02, 2013, 05:43:15 PM Well tidy Eric :) :)
Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: Meatslicer on December 07, 2013, 12:45:28 AM Cheers all.
Reported the pin to Gwent coroner and taking it in to Mark at Cardiff on monday. The farmers tickled too. He's never had detectorists on his land before, I showed it to him after I'd just dug it out and it was still covered in mud. I'll be going there for the next few months I think! Eric Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: rjm on December 07, 2013, 04:17:31 AM Well done, Eric. :) Title: Re: New Permission Finds Post by: whosyouruncle on December 07, 2013, 02:00:08 PM Envious of your list of finds M8. And Good luck on the site. :)
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