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Got my 1st permission today Wenalt near Rhiwbina, theres acres and acres of land i got permission for but not really shore of the history of the place, does anybody know any history of this area? and would it be worth detecting? i went out for a couple of hours today and got lots of farm scrap and a 2p :-[ .

Sorry, I can't personally comment on the actual location - I'm at the other end of Wales!

I take it you've looked at Wikipedia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhiwbina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhiwbina)

There's a bit of history there, but it depends where your permission is exactly in relation to the activity.

If you go into the 6" OS maps of 1898 you can at least see what was there 100+ years ago:

http://maps.nls.uk/view/102183603 (http://maps.nls.uk/view/102183603)

The map is zoomable and can be dragged sideways and up and down. I'd be looking for old roads that aren't there any more, old buildings, fords - that kind of thing. Might save a lot of fruitless searching if you can target promising areas.

Good luck with your new permission!

Alright mudskipper
Ask the farmer if the land has been tipped on.
...part of the fun is building up a history of the land with the things you find
Keep us informed  ;)

hi mudskipper i live about 2 miles from the wenault area, i have permision about a mile from the wenault and haven,t found much but saying that haven,t got out much,due to work and missus going shopping, lol. however caerphilly area has as you know got a castle, also castle coch not far away about 4 miles as the crow flies, there is also ruperra castle a few miles away near rudry [draethan]  also another ruin rumored to be castle remains wenault area,althou ruperra castle a no go area for md, i tried,  hope this helps.

Thanks for the replies guys.... been a great help. Just found out theres history of an iron age settlement, Norman mote and roman artifacts have been found. So will have to get the hours in. ;D

Well done on your land you have enjoy  8)

a hoard of matilda coins were found in that area in the 1980's , seriusly rare coins , made almost 100k back then via treasure trove etc  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

so who knows whats up there , get stuck in and good luck fella  :)

Good luck keep hitting it  ::) ::)

This may be helpful.

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore (http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore)

Type in your area in the box on the left and you can view an old map and by using the transparency slider, you can compare the map with an up-to date one.

I used to work at the crematorium just down from there :) Never asked for permission on any of the surrounding farms - there's Castell Morgraig behind the Traveller's Rest, but I'd heard the farmer wasn't agreeable to any kind of searching (I could well be wrong).

Beyond that, as Mike said there was a large hoard of Matilda / Stephen pennies found in the '80s - many rare Cardiff and Swansea mint coins, not sure where it was found, although like many things there are rumours :)

Caerphilly Road out of Cardiff is meant to be a roman road going to the fort in Caerphilly, on one map I looked at there were mentions of roman remains in the woods further along - either side of the top of Pantbach road.

It's border country between the Welsh and the invaders too, so you never know. I'd have thought as well, given the tumuli on the Garth, I can't see why there shouldn't be similar things on the Wenallt - certainly some good views over the channel from some places up there.