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Hi can anyone help please?

Found this coin today which I'm guessing is a copper token of sorts, but struggling to ID on google??? And also what is this tiny little fist shaped thing?

Thanks
Stampy

That's on heck of a coin Stampy. I bet it made your ears ring.  At that size it's got to be either a medal or a commemorative coin.  What's on the other side.

The little hand could be the end of a pipe tamper ?

Val

Is there anything on the flip side stampy ???

Val, your not wrong, to be honest it made me jump out of my skin!!!

Chef, I've tried to clean it, but the crud is really stuck fast, cleaning ideas welcome?? I would say it may have a bust of someone!!! As most coins that have come up have been between, George II and III perhaps him??

Thanks for looking
Stampy

did the coin/medal clean up any better in the end?

Given how thick it is I would say it's a commemorative medal rather than a coin the plinth/tomb usually symbolises somebodies death unfortunately without being able to read was is on the plinth or know who is on the other side it could be anybody as they were minted pretty regulaly :-\

That's a thick 1  ;D
Could it be similar too this

There are absolutely hundreds George they minted them for everything back then and the obit ones were issued on the death of Kings, Queens, politicians, generals, princes and Lords etc

Yea I can see geoff! I'm trying too find ones that has abit off detail off the pillars as shown on whats left I'm sure there can't be that many with that image. 

Wish I didn't see the post tbh it'll keep me up all nyt  ;D

 lol

Have fun
http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/bhm.htm (http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/bhm.htm)

I'm guessing it's someone mounted on a horse like charles 1st statue situated in trafalgar square ???

Thank you for trying, sadly I just can't find a way to remove the crud off this medal.

Stampy

I'm sure I've seen a similar Sarcophagus somewhere else and I think it was on a Roman tomb. Just can't quite get it together though.
Anyway I've entered it into my search engine and maybe something will pop out in the next few months. ::) ;D  (it's an age thing)

Val

Well its taken a while and endless soft brushing with a fiber glass pen but I have ID the medal.

Its a James II Commemorative Medal, from Benjamin Weiss collection.

Now I know what it is I'd love to get it properly cleaned. Anyone know of any product I could drop it in which won't damage the bronze but would clear the heavy crud???

Stampy

Well all cleaning is destructive to some extent but it's difficult to know what you mean by "crud" are you talking about a build up of corrosion or do you mean it has a calcium deposit on it? If corrosion then your stuck as that isn't "on" the medal but is "in" it and therefore part of it but if the latter then you could try some short electrolysis, and I do mean short ie 15 second stints, or if desperate and not to worried then most toilet cleaners that get rid of limescale should shift it but once again keep an eye on it ;) 

Well sorted Stampey.   Always rewarding to find out exactly what you've found.


Val

I think its a mixture of both Chef, will give the toilet cleaner a quick go and see what happens? Hopefully this is the link that shows the medal....quite nice.

http://www.historicalartmedals.com/MEDAL%20WEB%20ENTRIES/DASSIER%20KINGS%20AND%20QUEENS-NEW/JAMES%20II-BW619%20V.HIGH.htm (http://www.historicalartmedals.com/MEDAL%20WEB%20ENTRIES/DASSIER%20KINGS%20AND%20QUEENS-NEW/JAMES%20II-BW619%20V.HIGH.htm)

Stampy