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Title: Small bell for id please
Post by: Old Pete on October 27, 2014, 10:08:39 PM
Hi, went out to a new field over the weekend and found a lot of modern junk as well as a few decimal coins but I also found a small crotal bell. It's quite small at 16mm diameter and 20mm high including the loop. Could it possibly be a hawking bell and does anyone have any idea of it's age?


Title: Re: Small bell for id please
Post by: Chef Geoff on October 27, 2014, 10:57:59 PM
That's a lovely find Pete well done, I know I've seen one before but can't think where? I doubt it's a hawking bell as because hawking was the sole preserve of the wealthy the bells are inevitably silver so I think it's probably a horse pendant bell and old, most bells you'll see as finds are mainly 18th and 19thC horse harness bells from working horses but the loop on yours looks medieval. ;)


Title: Re: Small bell for id please
Post by: Chef Geoff on October 27, 2014, 11:05:59 PM
Gotcha!

http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/140203 (http://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/140203)


Title: Re: Small bell for id please
Post by: Mike on October 27, 2014, 11:10:37 PM
or maybe here    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap_and_bells (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap_and_bells)



Title: Re: Small bell for id please
Post by: Chef Geoff on October 27, 2014, 11:12:47 PM
Why have you lost one Mike? ;D


Title: Re: Small bell for id please
Post by: Old Pete on October 27, 2014, 11:15:49 PM
Thanks Geoff, that's the one. Although all the fields on my permission have been extensively ploughed and cultivated and show no features whatsoever, there are fields around them that still have signs of ridge and furrow so I was hoping for something a little older.


Title: Re: Small bell for id please
Post by: Mike on October 27, 2014, 11:17:20 PM
Why have you lost one Mike? ;D

oh more than 1 mate  ;D ;D I lost it years ago  ::) ;) :D that's why I started detecting  ::)



Title: Re: Small bell for id please
Post by: Old Pete on October 27, 2014, 11:24:40 PM
Hey Mike, I thought I must be the fool to take up detecting every time I dug another piece of junk.  ;D


Title: Re: Small bell for id please
Post by: Mike on October 27, 2014, 11:28:40 PM
Hey Mike, I thought I must be the fool to take up detecting every time I dug another piece of junk.  ;D


ah but one day the jester might become the king  ;)


Title: Re: Small bell for id please
Post by: Old Pete on October 27, 2014, 11:33:24 PM
I always live in hope.  ;)


Title: Re: Small bell for id please
Post by: Val Beechey on October 28, 2014, 12:36:11 AM
What about this for an idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_dance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_dance)

      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Moreska_Grasser06.jpg/180px-Moreska_Grasser06.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Moreska_Grasser06.jpg/180px-Moreska_Grasser06.jpg)

Seems it was very popular along the Welsh borders and the time would fit in with the apparent age and size of the bell.

Val



Title: Re: Small bell for id please
Post by: Old Pete on October 28, 2014, 07:55:53 PM
What about this for an idea.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_dance[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_dance[/url])

      [url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Moreska_Grasser06.jpg/180px-Moreska_Grasser06.jpg[/url] ([url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Moreska_Grasser06.jpg/180px-Moreska_Grasser06.jpg[/url])

Seems it was very popular along the Welsh borders and the time would fit in with the apparent age and size of the bell.

Val




Could be another possibility Val, I guess that we may never know what it was used for  :-\


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