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Hello
Can anyone put an ID on this cut quarter, it's a short cross and I'm having a guess at a John! Also has anyone got any ideas on this hallmark, have trawled loads of sites but can't find anything, not sure if it's silver or EPNS, any help with these would be much appreciated.
Cheers
Herbie

Yet another nice find Herbie, I'm not even going to attempt to id the quarter and will leave that to my betters...well actually the Doc ;)
I like you am so far running into blanks with the makers marks, though the picture of the ship behind the castle is very similar to the arms of Bristol. What exactly is the item or is it just a piece of random silver?

Hi Geoff
Regarding the hallmark its of a spoon i found today, Do you think it's Silver or EPNS?
Herbie.

Have you got a photo of the whole spoon? the shape of the spoon will give a clue, there is and as far as I know never  been a Bristol hallmark but obviously if the spoon is old enough then it wouldn't be hallmarked anyway. The scratches in the surface don't seem to be showing any leaching of copper so it doesn't really look like EP either.

At first I thought it might be Scottish before I noticed the ship behind the castle, also what I thought was a thistle looks more like a Fleur de Lys, the closest thing I found for that was Culpar, but still couldn't find maker or the castle and ship, a mystery :)
Spoon is 15 cm long.

Ah now seeing it like that I would say it was plate, It's post 1760 by it's shape so would be hallmarked, is that gold colour a result of your lighting or is that the copper showing through?

nice finds herbie  :)

Cheers Geoff
Think the gold colour is mainly down to bad light
Thanks Herbie.

On the second image. Are those 'pitting' marks?
You'll get pitting on plated metal if you use electrical means of cleaning but put the positive terminal
on the object you want to clean instead of the negative.

Hi Mike
Yes it does looked pitted had a good look with the magnifying glass and it does look plated
Herbie

Lovelu finds herbie well done mate

1/4 cut voided short cross. more likely henry 3rd.
pellets more joined so might be I'd-able from that.
Don't have any books to research at the moment.

maybe henry 2nd   (henric is the wording )
later ones have 3 pellets so earlier coin if henry 3rd

yep a a nickel silver fiddle pattern tea spoon....(which isnt silver by the way  ;D) probably 1900

1900??? please explain :D

im going by the shape of the spoon.......

Which dates from? I'll tell you  ;D France 1675 and in Britain from 1760

ye but elkington didnt invent electro plating until late 1830's  ;D

Ahh but it could be Sheffield plate ha ah :D

if it is a mathew bolton....its mine.......I droped it the other day....remember ;D

Don't tell me you broke the handle ;D

Cheers Richard, I get a lot of Henry III's round here so that wouldn't be a surprise, have a had a look in Spinks but I'm pretty poor at I/Ding stuff ::)

With regards the spoon if it was EPNS would it be marked as such with EP, A1, etc? Is there any way of telling if it is Sheffield Plate, still can't find that castle & ship mark.

i wouldnt even go down that route ::)...been there.....all I can say is wild geese and tears ;D